Darling to shelve NHS IT system

[DimPrawn]

See answer above - you can't expect free stuff to give up 100% uptime or work perfectly, if it's not then go use someone else. If you can do better (by working for over 5 years without being paid regularly) then give it a go.

Have you finished that search engine yet? Then what are you doing yapping here?

[AtW]

Have you finished that search engine yet? Then what are you doing yapping here?

Finishing off packing paper work for annual accounting - this won't make happy certain accountant from up north

[minestrone]

See answer above - you can't expect free stuff to give up 100% uptime or work perfectly, if it's not then go use someone else. If you can do better (by working for over 5 years without being paid regularly) then give it a go.

It's not even up 5% of the time.

[Mr.Whippy]

See answer above - you can't expect free stuff to give up 100% uptime or work perfectly, if it's not then go use someone else. If you can do better (by working for over 5 years without being paid regularly) then give it a go.

And you can't expect a national NHS system with 30,000 GP's and countless clinicians using many, many different components that have to interact with each other, securely, across different suppliers with different software and still require pretty much 100% uptime for a mere £10mn either...

Besides, where did I say it should be 100% uptime? All I said was, a single 30 hour outage is appalling whether its a free service or not.

[AtW]

It's not even up 5% of the time.

That's probably the case, but as I've patiently explained to you this free experimental search is not our current priority, since you have not paid to use it and we have no other obligations to you, then you are in no position to complain about its uptime or lack of features: use something else if you don't like it.

[AtW]

And you can't expect a national NHS system with 30,000 GP's and countless clinicians using many, many different components that have to interact with each other, securely, across different suppliers with different software and still require pretty much 100% uptime for a mere £10mn either...

Yes I expect that - there are standards that helped tens of millions of websites and hundreds of millions of people to operate online, NHS is a small subset of this problem - it's just a question of good APIs to be written and this should be done by inhouse team of experts who understand NHS.

External implementation therefore should be alongside those APIs and it's correctness can be easily tested.

[Mr.Whippy]

and this should be done by inhouse team of experts who understand NHS.

That wont be you then regardless of your price, because you have absolutely no understanding of the NHS at all.

[the_duderama]

How do banks do it, and other businesses, do they dig ground to put their own fiber optics in it?

Branch to data centre banks certianly do have their own fibre, which would be similair to a surgery to datacentre, reason being so they can control the data being sent over it, ensure it doesn't touch anything public, apply QoS etc. Although most surgeries use ADSL, only the larger practices/hospitals/datacentres would use ethernet/SDH WAN circuits.

You seem to be confusing a conveinence for banking customers with a private and secure infrastructure. Or you're just plain arrogant. Or just a troll.

[AtW]

That wont be you then regardless of your price, because you have absolutely no understanding of the NHS at all.

Indeed, it won't be me - I am a bit tied up with my Plan A, would not swap it for NHS contract work - I like to know that things are happening with sensible costs.

[AtW]

Branch to data centre banks certianly do have their own fibre

What, branches dig up streets to lay down their own fiber optics? Renting fiber from BT/Telewest is not exactly the same thing.

You seem to be confusing a conveinence for banking customers with a private and secure infrastructure.

Banking transactions are pretty private - yet banks allow people access their accounts via web/SSL. There is no reason why NHS can't use the same open tried and tested technologies.