Darling to shelve NHS IT system

[TheFaQQer]

From the OP:
They say Labour has spent £100bn on IT since 1997 and contracts worth another £70bn are due to be renewed or commissioned in the next two years.


Let me know if you need more detail. I have MS Excel 2007.

PZZ

Ah - so the Conservatives estimate that £100 Bn has already been spent on IT projects (not the NHS) and they think that a further £70Bn might be spent in the future. I see how that adds up.

[AtW]

and with Sun providing all the hardware/OS/apps there's no risk of the 'it's not us, contact them' nonsense.

Sun is no longer in control - Oracle (software company) is. Their Sparc architecture was a goner years ago, but now it is dead certainty that it won't be here soon.

Solaris? Not exactly super supported system - the Sun is a goner and anyone buying their stuff now should seriously consider if they are fit for the job they do.

Case in point - Sun sells lots of x64 boxes, if Sparc was so great they'd never do it.

[pzz76077]

All I can say is -= 170Bn, I would give you a system you could wank over.....and get rich in the process.

I will say no more....

PZZ

[TheFaQQer]

Thats the problem, 50m for hardware etc - are you mad??
10m max

PZZ

When Oracle and Sun bid for work with VW (UK) in 1999, the hardware costs were £10 million. Software licensing was £10 million. Consultancy revenue was £10 million.

That project was a hell of a lot simpler than the NHS one is, with much lower expectation of reliability, redundancy and security.

[minestrone]

great idea... I'd love to have my medical records "hooked up to the web". I really don't think letting all the trusts go off and do their own thing is a great idea.

They are already. have been for years.

[pzz76077]

When Oracle and Sun bid for work with VW (UK) in 1999, the hardware costs were £10 million. Software licensing was £10 million. Consultancy revenue was £10 million.

That project was a hell of a lot simpler than the NHS one is, with much lower expectation of reliability, redundancy and security.

So, 1m per year Oracle costs, where did the rest of the 170Bn costs go??
Whos pocket??

PZZZ

[TheFaQQer]

Sun is no longer in control - Oracle (software company) is.

How can Oracle be in control, if they don't own the company?

[TheFaQQer]

So, 1m per year Oracle costs, where did the rest of the 170Bn costs go??
Whos pocket??

PZZZ

I'm sorry, I have no idea how that refers to my previous post, so am unable to comment.

[pzz76077]

I'm sorry, I have no idea how that refers to my previous post, so am unable to comment.

This is how much it should cost.

PZZ

[d000hg]

I wonder how far Google had got for the first £1 billion, let alone £12 billion. I would imagine, quite a long way. I'd also suggest that in adjusted real-world value, both MS and Apple have created several operating systems for that kind of cash.

I also doubt that World of Warcraft (which is a formidable system, seriously) has got anywhere around that level of investment.

The NHS may be big, but really there are only 60 million people in the UK and it is hard to conceive what £12bn could be spent on. That's 120 THOUSAND man-years of work, even if it costs £100k/year per person.

In the private sector, would even a big bank spend that much on a new software system?