Winkers who go to work with Swine Flu

[sasguru]

No, that is not what I am saying at all. Another "gem" missed.
They have this immunity to it entirely because they have previously come into contact with it.
The point is that exposure to it clearly creates immunity, and if we are fairly powerless to stop the spread of such a virus then we should not get too hung up on suggesting quasi isolationist techniques that are ultimately doomed to failure. ?

So you're going against the advice the epidemiologists in the HPA came up with, which is to stay at home and get someone to collect your medicines?

You know SB, I really wouldn't mind that you're an absolute brainless idiotic cretin, if your stupid actions didn't harm your betters.
You make a good case for the re-introduction of Eugenics into society.

[shaunbhoy]

So you're going against the advice the epidemiologists in the HPA came up with, which is to stay at home and get someone to collect your medicines?

The same "experts" that have concluded that "Smoking is bad for you, and so is inhaling asbestos and sticking your head inside a nuclear reactor"?
You may need to slavishly take advice from bodies that specialise in stating the bleeding obvious, but it is not mandatory for everyone.
So their "advice" is to send someone that has been in contact with you and all your ghastly viral germs, out into the general public to collect your medicine at a chemist's, presumably liberally filled with the ill, is it? Yeah, that'll work!!!
Would these epidemioligists be basing any of their crackpot theories on the stats that knuckleheads like YOU produce I wonder?

[shaunbhoy]

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You make a good case for the re-introduction of Eugenics into society.

Yes, I suppose I do. However, just because I am living proof that positive eugenics may be seen as a tangible benefit, that is no mandate for too much dabbling. In your case the liberal use of the ugly stick has made reproduction of your genetic footprint a fairly remote possibility, and that can be no bad thing. Last thing we want is a Britain knee-deep in Baldrickesque trolls shambling about the cities with great armfuls of stats, and body odours that would make a warthog retch, is there? Bad enough that we have AtW and his ilk flooding the internet forums with gibberish!!
Anyway, enough of this small talk, I have wrinklies to infect......cough cough splutter!!!!!!

[TimberWolf]

Elf and safety innit.

[centurian]

You are paid on the basis you are providing a service, not to go in and fill a seat... that is permie thinking.
If you are hiring a builder to build you a garage and he turns up sick and does shoddy work or spends most of the time sitting about, would you be happy when he bills a full days' work?

If you're feeling utter cr@p and only running at 50%, then ClientCo has a genuine greivance not to be expect to be billed at full rate - and you really shouldn't be in.

But 2 days later (flu rarely affects me for more than 48 hours), you're running at over 98%, but can still be infectious for 5 more days.

ClientCo may still not want you there because you could be infecting other people.... even though you are more than capable of providing the service to an adequate level.

So the question is (setting aside any moral obligations to workers nearby) - should I be expected to go without pay for 3 more days, even though I am quite capable of performing the service

[shaunbhoy]

should I be expected to go without pay for 3 more days, even though I am quite capable of performing the service

Of course not. The wholeplace would grind to a standstill if we all reacted like Pavlov's dog to every "health crisis" that occurred. Leave the kneejerk panic reactions to the jittery "Beakers" amongst us like sg. He is more than capable of flapping like an old sweetie-wife on behalf of all of us.
Talking of which, where is he anyway? The "special bus" must have got stuck in traffic on its way back to his mummy's place.

[d000hg]

So the question is (setting aside any moral obligations to workers nearby) - should I be expected to go without pay for 3 more days, even though I am quite capable of performing the service

That's a much more interesting question. What if you coming in for those 3 days loses the company 3 man-weeks of work as other people catch the bug from you? You've then cost the company a bunch of cash.

I'm sure in some jobs, they prefer permies not to come in while contagious from flu, because an outbreak can really hammer productivity. Of course in that case the permies get paid.

[BrilloPad]

I'm sure in some jobs, they prefer permies not to come in while contagious from flu, because an outbreak can really hammer productivity. Of course in that case the permies get paid.

Yet another good reason to employ contractors over permies.

[shaunbhoy]

That's a much more interesting question. What if you coming in for those 3 days loses the company 3 man-weeks of work as other people catch the bug from you? You've then cost the company a bunch of cash.

Ah, but in the long term you may save them cash as the next time the virus appears they are all unscathed due to the immunity they develop this time.

I'm sure in some jobs, they prefer permies not to come in while contagious from flu,

In sg's case they just prefer him not to come in..............period!!

[darmstadt]

By the looks of it, swine flu can now be transmitted via the internet so I would suggest not touching your keyboards anymore...