BNP Members list leaked on the internet

[Bob Dalek]

Terrorist Scum

True. But they are now "on-side". (Anyway, as we all know [yeah, right!] Sinn Fein never planted a single bomb; that was the IRA. Quite different entities and one would be a fool to suggest otherwise.).

My point was: here's a formerly banned, outlawed, evil, terrorist, scum-ridden group who now sit with other parties and do Politics. Bombing, in that case, means nowt. The BNP is foul, but it's fouler to suppress democracy.

[Platypus]

This isnt a debate between supporting the BNP and not supporting them.

This is a debate between those who believe in free speech and those who do not.

Or perhaps freedom of thought?

(which is even more of a worry the people who seem to be against that)

[AtW]

People are entitled to their views, but from andecdotal and solid evidence there is a disconnect between the party line and what it's supporters belive in. It may not be a racist party but it's a party of racists.

If you have a case against the party bring it to court and get banned, so long as it would be fair trial I'd agree with that. But until courts decided that membership in BNP is illegal publishing complete list is gross breach of privacy - the only names that should have been published are a handful of people who work in police, looks like this number is very small like 0.1% of the list (which is very small too) or less.

[M_B]

BNP has no chance of winning in fair election in this country, their small membership only supports this view - if whoever was near their members list actually found that 5 mln people were in it, and then danger of them winning would be high, then yes maybe, but their list is small, they poll bugger all - talking of Algeria example or any other country is totally unapplicable to this case.

Isnt that a little contradictory ? Aren't you saying that everyone is entitled to their view and the democratic process unless they (for example the BNP) become too powerful and have a chance at government ?

Either a party is entitled to the democratic process and a chance at government or it isn't.

[AtW]

You didn't answer.

I'll fight against them making it into Govt and if enough people of this country do the same I think it can be won. If vast majority supports them then I'd most likely leave the country like I left Russia - I'd go to USA where citizens have firearms and will defend their freedom if necessary.

[Xenophon]

Or perhaps freedom of thought?

(which is even more of a worry the people who seem to be against that)

You justify BNP views as free thought?

Generous.

[Mich the Tester]

Now that's an entirely different point to what you said.

Publishing the list is one thing, making assumptions about everyone on that list is another.

It’s enough reason to doubt someone’s integrity. Free speech is the right of everyone, as is freedom of political association. Freedom also comes with the responsibility of facing the consequences, and if the consequence is that your employer decides you’re a liability and he doesn’t want to employ you, then hard luck. That’s another freedom; free enterprise.

[Platypus]

People are entitled to their views, but from andecdotal and solid evidence there is a disconnect between the party line and what it's supporters belive in. It may not be a racist party but it's a party of racists. Let Mr Griffin spout as much "freedom of speech" as he likes, that doesn't give members carte blanche to intimidate and assault others based on the colour of their skin.

Good point well made.

[Bob Dalek]

Are you serious? They have very little support and no chance to get in, the best they can do is get a few councillors in some places, and even that is for good - if they do anything stupid they can be jailed.

It is good if a few get in. Then the top 3 parties have to (I hope) think about what it is that's so f--ked-up in the areas that they'd be representing - and fix the problem/s. It's invariably poverty, hopelessness, disenfranchisement and misplaced envy that leads to this sort of voting. Hitler's meal ticket was just that.

[NotAllThere]

I place a great deal of emphasis on information security and it seemed the right thing to do, contact the party chariman to let him know.

Equally I'd do the same if it was Gordos mob or Cameron's crowd.

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Well... you're definitely beyond the pale if you'd do it for them.