BNP Members list leaked on the internet

[Bagpuss]

Look dude, where they will get 35%? There are so many non-whites in this country now that they will never get anywhere close to that figure, it's just not possible. They don't even poll 5% nationally, local support is non-existant - they barely got a handful of councillors, they should have been left to rot and never mentioned (unless some criminal activity is proven).

Hitler had a similar level of support in the early 30s, all it took was dirty shirts and badly drawn windows

[AtW]

Anyway, I will go do some work now - it is shocking that basic freedoms like freedom of speech needs to be defended in this country by someone who immigration from Soviet Union. Well, maybe it's not suprising - too many people in this country take things for granted.

[milanbenes]

are you lot ignoring me

Milan.

[M_B]

what should not be allowed is for any party to change the rules while they are in Govt in order to prolong their time in power.......if they do that or even talk of doing it, then they should be immediately overthrown.

If, on the other hand they had, say, 35% of the popular support (say after a prolonged period of economic problems) and had a charismatic orator for a leader such that they could possibly get into power in a first past the post system- would all the people arguing for free speech on here still support them taking power, knowing full well that they would then suspend the democratic process?

Well yes this is the issue isn't it. History has shown that once such a party does gain control, it can be difficult to remove it.

I'm not sure what the answer is myself - I feel uncomfortable about banning any political movement, but I'd also feel uncomfortable about any extreme party taking power.

[sasguru]

Look dude, where they will get 35%? There are so many non-whites in this country now that they will never get anywhere close to that figure, it's just not possible. They don't even poll 5% nationally, local support is non-existant - they barely got a handful of councillors, they should have been left to rot and never mentioned (unless some criminal activity is proven).

The ethnic minority population countrywide is still under 10%, contrary to popular impression. And the Nazi party was similarly small at some part of its history. Prolonged economic dislocation and desperation causes people to behave differently and believe every demagogue who comes along.
The BNP make it no secret that they're happy about the impending economic situation - they want it to be as bad as possible.

[tay]

I find it amusing people defending the elimination of political parties that disagree with them...is stated as a way of avoiding another Nazi Germany.... to me it is a clear step towards nazi Germany, not a way of avoiding it.

[Platypus]

are you lot ignoring me

Milan.

Did I hear something ?

Thought not.

[Xenophon]

Hey no one is disputing the BNP's right to exist or even for people to be racist.
It's just that when they self destruct internally because they're a bunch of hapless buffoons, one can't help but laugh ....
If, on the other hand they had, say, 35% of the popular support (say after a prolonged period of economic problems) and had a charismatic orator for a leader such that they could possibly get into power in a first past the post system- would all the people arguing for free speech on here still support them taking power, knowing full well that they would then suspend the democratic process?

Good points.

[AtW]

Hitler had a similar level of support in the early 30s, all it took was dirty shirts and badly drawn windows

Hitler had a lot more support than 1% BNP has.

[sasguru]

Do you think at the time Berlin had 40-45% of non-white population? If BNP was ever close to get in power then all asians non-whites and lots of whites would vote against them - they have zero chance.

It probably had a large Jewish population - same difference. Hitler never won in Berlin AFAIK.