Glasgow Bombers...

[Moscow Mule]

Then they are not Muslims. It says so in the Koran. They are damned like the rest of us and they may as well give up going to the mosque.

Not exactly, since these sins were committed as a youth, there may be a path to Allah still open.

In order for forgiveness to be accepted, these conditions should be met:

(1) The crime is committed out of ignorance, not with the intention that, "Let us go ahead and commit this crime as Allah is forgiving, so He will forgive us.";

(2) Turn into shame and repentance after committing a crime out of ignorance;

(3) After asking for forgiveness, make a promise or pledge to "mend his ways", and to stick to his promise.

[SallyAnne]

That'll be Sikh and Hindu then

Feck off!!!!

[Moscow Mule]

Ah so you haven't bothered to enlighten yourself before you make outrageous claims?

Not with their own propaganda, I had discounted them as a bunch of white-supremacists based on the Panorama films.

[Causus Deli]

Not with their own propaganda, I had discounted them as a bunch of white-supremacists based on the Panorama films.

4 pissheads in a pub, good move.

[Moscow Mule]

4 pissheads in a pub, good move.

They do say a persons true persona comes out when drunk. Alcohol being a suppressant and all.

[Causus Deli]

They do say a persons true persona comes out when drunk. Alcohol being a suppressant and all.

As I have said there are at least 4 pissheads in every pub every night that if you asked about other nationals in their country you would get exactly the same response. We are a nation of racists, the sooner we accept this the sooner we can progress.

[The Lone Gunman]

Not exactly, since these sins were committed as a youth, there may be a path to Allah still open.

In order for forgiveness to be accepted, these conditions should be met:

(1) The crime is committed out of ignorance, not with the intention that, "Let us go ahead and commit this crime as Allah is forgiving, so He will forgive us.";

(2) Turn into shame and repentance after committing a crime out of ignorance;

(3) After asking for forgiveness, make a promise or pledge to "mend his ways", and to stick to his promise.

Well done. At last, someone who has done a little research.

Those who drink smoke and fornicate break rule 1. Every Muslim is taught from an early age that these things are wrog and can not claim ignorance.
They can still be forgiven (Allah is oft forgiving and merciful).

How many times can an adult Muslim sin?

[Old Greg]

Do you mean allegedly, or are you referring to some drunken louts down the pub in a documentary. Let me tell you that in my experience the drunken people down most pubs aren't members of the BNP but they have very strong views on what they want of their country. You wouldn't like it, it involves repatriations etc - something you don't find in the BNP literature. Or was it the NF a few decades ago you refer to? WEll if you do then I say Hain is a violent nasty anti-nazi do anything nutcase.

I think Griffin and his predecessor Tyndall (desceased) have done, said and written enough to show themselves for what they are. I've posted this before and at the risk of boring, I can find them and copy and pate if anyone wants.

[sasguru]

Then they are not Muslims. It says so in the Koran. They are damned like the rest of us and they may as well give up going to the mosque.

Well according to Christian fundamentalists, we are not Christian unless we are "saved" and accept "the Lord Jesus as our personal saviour".
So why do some people still go to church? Same thing with Mossies.

Why do you insist that Muslims must have higher standards of belief than us?.

[Moscow Mule]

As I have said there are at least 4 pissheads in every pub every night that if you asked about other nationals in their country you would get exactly the same response. We are a nation of racists, the sooner we accept this the sooner we can progress.

The difference is, most people can realise that chucking every brown person out of the country is a bad idea. It is the stated aim of the some of the BNP.