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[Old Greg]

So you dont see the anti BNP propaganda there? It is OK to question the BNP on mixed marriage to second the answer you require? What do you think the answer would be if you asked a Muslim the same question?
If you got the same answer would you find it as distasteful and would you be actively campaigning against them?

I don't get the same answer.
Muslims are against inter-faith marriage, as are Sikhs and Hindus (or certainly some Hindus are). As are Mormons (I think) and some Jews and Christians. Different religions and sects of each religion and families and individuals within each religion go along with this to a greater or lesser extent

Now if you ask me, it's all boll0x, but it's basis is on shared beliefs. A Muslim friend of mine with a white boyfriend would have been able to marry him if he'd converted (which he reasonably declined to do and that was that).

The BNP position is based on race, not religion. In another words, on what you are physically, rather than what you think. It is based on the view that some groups are born superior to others and that racial pollution should be avoided (particularly when it comes to the master race).

They are different positions in their origin and in themselves.

[Moscow Mule]

It clearly states in the Koran that a Muslim may not marry a non Muslim, in fact they may not take non Muslims as friends.

Do you mean this bit?

[3.27] Thou makest the night to pass into the day and Thou makest the day to pass into the night, and Thou bringest forth the living from the dead and Thou bringest forth the dead from the living, and Thou givest sustenance to whom Thou pleasest without measure.
[3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
[3.29] Say: Whether you hide what is in your hearts or manifest it, Allah knows it, and He knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth, and Allah has power over all things.

[The Lone Gunman]

But that's like saying all Christians are fundamentalists. There is some pretty violent and hair raising stuff esp. in the Old Testament and if you took it literally you would be smiting people all over the place. But just as most Christians are pragmatic enough to ignore the sillier and contradictory stuff in their religious book, so I believe are most Muslims. I don't deny there's a violent and evil hard core.

Aaaaarrrggghhhh <pulls hair out in frustration>.
Muslims can not pick and choose which parts of the Koran they believe. It is the word of God. It is all true. Some things are open to interpretation others are clear cut MUST or MUST NOT does.
To deny the Koran is to deny ones faith. Effectively you would be saying you are not a Muslim anymore.

Christianity can treat its Holy books as metaphorical and open to change apart from a few bits like "Thou shalt not" but breaking the commandments does not reduce you to the state of infidel and the damned.

[Causus Deli]

It's called analysis.

I know your sort.

Ooooh you are clever.

[Causus Deli]

Have you read their manifesto?!!

Would you like to enlighten me where it is Nazi like? I suspect you have not read it.

[Old Greg]

I could argue the same of Islam, the moderates are liars.
It clearly states in the Koran that a Muslim may not marry a non Muslim, in fact they may not take non Muslims as friends.
Any Muslim who says otherwise is not a Muslim.
Islam = BNP in so many ways yet the majority of folk are not willing to ask the hard questions or make the hard decisions.

We kind of went through this later. The moderates are not liars - they have a different interpretation of how to lead their lives as Muslims. That is a different thing

[sasguru]

Aaaaarrrggghhhh <pulls hair out in frustration>.
Muslims can not pick and choose which parts of the Koran they believe. It is the word of God. It is all true. Some things are open to interpretation others are clear cut MUST or MUST NOT does.
To deny the Koran is to deny ones faith. Effectively you would be saying you are not a Muslim anymore.

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Aren't you being a little fundamentalist yourself? There are plenty of "Christians" who go to church without much belief, out of habit or culture. Similarly there are plenty of "Muslims" who pray perfunctorily to Mecca and go to the mosque, but enjoy a smoke or a drink or the company of "infidels". I know a couple myself.

[Old Greg]

Would you like to enlighten me where it is Nazi like? I suspect you have not read it.

Well, I don't go for their manifesto (I don't believe Hitler stood on a start wold war and kill all Jews manifesto), I go on the various unpleasantnesses that leading BNP members have been caught saying and doing over the years.

[Old Greg]

Ooooh you are clever.

By your standards, we're all fecking geniuses.

[SallyAnne]

I find the latest revision a little PC for my liking.