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    Originally posted by Old Greg
    But you're an unmarried lady!

    I know - it makes it even better
    The pope is a tard.

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      Originally posted by sasguru


      No but allah has some really good reconstructive surgeons, apparently.
      They can do gender reassignment so watch it or you'll be joining her.

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        Originally posted by Old Greg
        They can do gender reassignment so watch it or you'll be joining her.
        Thinking about this, if the really damned outnumber the martyrs by 72:1, there's a nice symmetry there.

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          Originally posted by Moscow Mule
          Holocaust denial (or revisionism if you will) not is necessarily racist however Griffin is a very dangerous man. Well-educated, very knowledgeable and a fluent public speaker. Not hard to see how those in society who are both ill-educated and hold a grievance against the world (unemployment. low wages, bad housing etc) are impressed by him and easily indoctrinated into the ideals of his party, believing they are "sticking up for their rights" rather than sowing the seeds for racial cleansing.

          Some Griffin Quotes:
          “It's part of their plan for conquering countries. It's how they do it.”

          “When we say that Islam and our values, western democracy, are incompatible that is not to say that Muslims are bad.”

          On
          "A dog born in a stable does not make it a horse."
          Griffin said "I’d agree with that. Its not racism.’ Having a British passport does not make you British."

          On Nick Griffin's quote that 'if something radical is done, we will have race riots.

          Brett Ellis- What do you mean by radical?

          ‘This is Britain; our fundamental native values will prevail. With Islamic extremism, we will end up with a civil war. We need to kick out Muslim extremists, and ensure Muslims are pushed to make their religion fit our way of life. I don’t have the answers. I’m not sure quite how we will do this.’
          Tell me how any of they are bad.

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            Originally posted by Old Greg
            It is racist because he seeks to deny against all historical evidence that Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews. Why else would anyone say that - particularly someone who has form on anti-semitism (it's that context and analysis thing again). If anyone has a different theory for why he said it, then please share. Pasted from wikipedia again - if anyone wants to claim that any of it is untrue, go ahead.

            He is entitled to foolis views, but his entitlement has nothing to do with whether or not they are racist.

            Estimates will continue to change because if a dictator in wartime in occupied countries seeks to industrially slaughter as many Jews as possible, it's going to be tricky putting an exact number on it. Griffin denies it happened.
            Not from what you posted; he questioned the extent which many have.
            Last edited by Causus Deli; 4 July 2007, 14:39.

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              Originally posted by Old Greg
              Here's another beauty from Griffin on Islam (apologies as I've posted this before)

              We bang on about Islam. Why? Because to the ordinary public out there it's the thing they can understand. It's the thing the newspaper editors sell newspapers with. If we were to attack some other ethnic group — some people say we should attack the Jews ... But ... we've got to get to power. And if that was an issue we chose to bang on about when the press don't talk about it ... the public would just think we were barking mad. They'd just think oh, you're attacking Jews just because you want to attack Jews. You're attacking this group of powerful Zionists just because you want to take poor Manny Cohen the tailor and shove him in a gas chamber. That's what the public would think. It wouldn't get us anywhere other than stepping backwards. It would lock us in a little box; the public would think "extremist crank lunatics, nothing to do with me." And we wouldn't get power.

              Anyone to defend that one?
              Out of context.

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                Originally posted by Old Greg
                Here's another beauty from Griffin on Islam (apologies as I've posted this before)

                We bang on about Islam. Why? Because to the ordinary public out there it's the thing they can understand. It's the thing the newspaper editors sell newspapers with. If we were to attack some other ethnic group — some people say we should attack the Jews ... But ... we've got to get to power. And if that was an issue we chose to bang on about when the press don't talk about it ... the public would just think we were barking mad. They'd just think oh, you're attacking Jews just because you want to attack Jews. You're attacking this group of powerful Zionists just because you want to take poor Manny Cohen the tailor and shove him in a gas chamber. That's what the public would think. It wouldn't get us anywhere other than stepping backwards. It would lock us in a little box; the public would think "extremist crank lunatics, nothing to do with me." And we wouldn't get power.

                Anyone to defend that one?
                That is talking about political expediency and using an example for a particular policey.
                Rather like NL talking about Education and the NHS rather than IR35. Talk about what the majority will understand.
                The Tories do it too. They talk about Law and Order, not getting out of Europe. It is what the voters will understand.
                Given the BNPs stance on migration and asylum it is easiest for them to connect with the public on a Muslim front, particularly given recent events.
                I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                The original point and click interface by
                Smith and Wesson.

                Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                  Originally posted by Causus Deli
                  Not from what you posted; he questioned the extent which many have.
                  It's back to that context thingy. Put it all together to build a picture. What do we all reckon this guy thinks about Jews?

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                    Originally posted by Causus Deli
                    Out of context.
                    There is the context of everything we've seen posted here. He's an opportunistic anti-semite.

                    There is also the behaviour and words of other leading BNP leaders. It doesn't take a political genius to work it out.

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                      Originally posted by Old Greg
                      It's back to that context thingy. Put it all together to build a picture. What do we all reckon this guy thinks about Jews?
                      He believes there is a Zionist plot. He believes they are using the holocaust to trigger sympathetic responses so people wont stop them as they try to anihalate Palastine.
                      He may be right.
                      I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                      The original point and click interface by
                      Smith and Wesson.

                      Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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