Sure sounds like censorship to me...

[vetran]

Riddle me this. Where is the ball?

In your Y-Fronts?

[JustKeepSwimming]

Weird, because many of the examples cited so far have explicitly said that the trans person's feeling discomfited.

When my daughters were in their teens they went swimming at our local pool. In the changing rooms there was a transwoman standing around naked with her male genitals on display. It made them feel extremely uncomfortable. Why? Because they a) don't want to see the genitals of a strange apparent male, and b) don't want someone who looks male in the same room as them when they get changed.

Eventually the person was challenged by an older woman who told the person to put some bloody clothes on and stop parading around like a dick.

Why does it make your feel uncomfortable?

[vetran]

Weird, because many of the examples cited so far have explicitly said that the trans person's feeling discomfited.

When my daughters were in their teens they went swimming at our local pool. In the changing rooms there was a transwoman standing around naked with her male genitals on display. It made them feel extremely uncomfortable. Why? Because they a) don't want to see the genitals of a strange apparent male, and b) don't want someone who looks male in the same room as them when they get changed.

Eventually the person was challenged by an older woman who told the person to put some bloody clothes on and stop parading around like a dick.

So basically a transphobe?

[NotAllThere]

Riddle me this. Where is the ball?

On the transwomen who hasn't transitioned in the women's changing room.

[wattaj]

They are asking for UK examples of trans women using their trans identity to go into women's spaces and commit sexual assault.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/trans...oilet-8914577/

HTH.

[wattaj]

The discussion about trans in changing rooms is about alleged safety not preventing discomfort. If there is no founded safety concerns, which you haven't demonstrated, then opposition to trans people in changing rooms sounds awfully like 'I don't want to change with the blacks, they make me feel uncomfortable'.

You continue to conflate the trans debate with that of racial segregation. To be clear: the two things are not the same. The trans debate is about allowing biological males into womens' spaces. There are very obvious reasons for NOT allowing such access one of which is that 98% of sexual assault is perpetrated by males. There is no way to identify the good from the bad, so safeguarding dictates that ALL males are excluded; there is no 'oh, but they are ok because they have a frock on' exemption.

[JustKeepSwimming]

You continue to conflate the trans debate with that of racial segregation. To be clear: the two things are not the same. The trans debate is about allowing biological males into womens' spaces. There are very obvious reasons for NOT allowing such access one of which is that 98% of sexual assault is perpetrated by males. There is no way to identify the good from the bad, so safeguarding dictates that ALL males are excluded; there is no 'oh, but they are ok because they have a frock on' exemption.

You're the one who is playing mental gymnastics in an attempt differentiate your segregation with racial segregation. The same way you use mental gymnastics to try and claim the arguments you're making against trans people aren't the same that were used oppress gay people.

[wattaj]

Why does it make your feel uncomfortable?

You are now clearly trolling these boards.

You seem to have followed at least some of the wider debate, so you should know that many, if not most, of the trans-identifying males do so to support their autogynephilia: they seek out a sexual thrill from the performance of 'womanface' and the visible discomfort of women in their presence.

Women should not be forced into playing along with a man's paraphilia against their will.

[malvolio]

You continue to conflate the trans debate with that of racial segregation. To be clear: the two things are not the same. The trans debate is about allowing biological males into womens' spaces. There are very obvious reasons for NOT allowing such access one of which is that 98% of sexual assault is perpetrated by males. There is no way to identify the good from the bad, so safeguarding dictates that ALL males are excluded; there is no 'oh, but they are ok because they have a frock on' exemption.

Stop talking sense. It doesn't work with fanatics. Or people who simply like arguing...

[wattaj]

You're the one who is playing mental gymnastics in an attempt differentiate your segregation with racial segregation. The same way you use mental gymnastics to try and claim the arguments you're making against trans people aren't the same that were used oppress gay people.

These arguments are not the same thing. And these groups sought out completely different ends. You are either confused, or acting in bad faith in this debate.