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Sure sounds like censorship to me...

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    #71
    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Its called respect. If your actions inconvenience or offend another maybe you should consider altering your actions?

    I have no idea what you like having rammed down your throat but I am choosy about whose Genitalia I pleasure, you have to buy me dinner first!
    Trans people are just trying to get on with their lives. Why should they change if they are hurting no-one and offending no-one apart from those who think trans shouldn’t exist?
    "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
    - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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      #72
      Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post

      Yet you seem to be the one who desperately needs a law to tell you where you can and can't wave your wang about...
      We already have a law covering indecent exposure however the Police seem to ignore it if you say "I am trans".
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #73
        Originally posted by cojak View Post

        Trans people are just trying to get on with their lives. Why should they change if they are hurting no-one and offending no-one apart from those who think trans shouldn’t exist?
        Conflating people offended by a physical male exposing themselves in a female only space with being transphobic is the actual problem.

        Do what you want when it doesn't negatively affect other people's rights.
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          #74
          Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post

          Ah yes, the good old 'I don't care if you're gay just don't ram it down my throat'.
          That is disingenuous. The general debate is about respecting boundaries.
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            #75
            Originally posted by cojak View Post
            Trans people are just trying to get on with their lives. Why should they change if they are hurting no-one and offending no-one apart from those who think trans shouldn’t exist?
            Regarding your first point: I believe this to be true. Unfortunately, there are too many examples of people abusing the cover of the "trans umbrella" specifically to cover other less savoury activity and criminality.

            Regarding your second point: I have followed this wider discussion quite closely over the past few years and I have never come across the view that "trans shouldn't exist". Much is made of that particular strawman, but it is not a recognised position within the gender critical debate... I have found that the general consensus tends toward 'live as you want, but you're still your birth sex; cope".

            HTH.
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              #76
              Originally posted by mudskipper View Post

              Aye, all those are USA - any home examples or are we all getting our jockstraps in a twist over something that really is a non-issue?
              https://gcn.ie/irish-sporting-commun...t-trans-women/
              https://www.skysports.com/rugby-unio...step-backwards
              https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/0...-are-shameful/

              There is much more to each of these stories, but I'm afraid that I'll have to let you do your own digging. TL'DR: I find this to be a shameful abdication of responsibility on the part of the sports' governing bodies.

              HTH.
              Last edited by wattaj; 18 August 2023, 08:42.
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                #77
                Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post
                You seem to be going out of your way to provide everything but what is being asked for.
                ????
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  #78


                  Originally posted by vetran View Post

                  ????
                  They are asking for UK examples of trans women using their trans identity to go into women's spaces and commit sexual assault.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post

                    We already have a law covering indecent exposure however the Police seem to ignore it if you say "I am trans".
                    Going into a changing rooms and getting changed is not indecent exposure regardless of the sex/gender of the people in the room.

                    The sense of entitlement you have is off the scale. The only choice you have is not to use that changing room, you have no choice in deciding who is and isn't allowed in, be it a trans women, an old women or black women.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post



                      They are asking for UK examples of trans women using their trans identity to go into women's spaces and expose themselves making women feel uncomfortable..
                      The bar was clearly lower - FTFY

                      Suggestions for assaults were supplied by others

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