Sure sounds like censorship to me...

[KinooOrKinog]

The discussion about trans in changing rooms is about alleged safety not preventing discomfort. If there is no founded safety concerns, which you haven't demonstrated, then opposition to trans people in changing rooms sounds awfully like 'I don't want to change with the blacks, they make me feel uncomfortable'.

Quite a few people have given a good argument for why men shouldn't be allowed the right to use women only places. You clearly think that they should have that right though. Why is that? I've asked you, I think, three times now. Can you answer that without more of the olympic level whataboutery?

[wattaj]

Stop talking sense. It doesn't work with fanatics. Or people who simply like arguing...

Sound advice from an older, wiser head.

[JustKeepSwimming]

You are now clearly trolling these boards.

You seem to have followed at least some of the wider debate, so you should know that many, if not most, of the trans-identifying males do so to support their autogynephilia: they seek out a sexual thrill from the performance of 'womanface' and the visible discomfort of women in their presence.

Women should not be forced into playing along with a man's paraphilia against their will.

We are almost there, you'll be goose stepping by tea time at this rate.

Quite a few people have given a good argument for why men shouldn't be allowed the right to use women only places. You clearly think that they should have that right though. Why is that? I've asked you, I think, three times now. Can you answer that without more of the olympic level whataboutery?

'Men are rapists' isn't a good argument. Neither is SS Wattaj's 'Trans are just sex offenders'

That which is not forbidden is allowed. The onus is on those who wish to curtail liberty to justify it.

[cojak]

There are entitled, arrogant arseholes of both genders. These people can be kicked out of environments where they cause offence. I’ve known women told to cover up when they’ve swanned around in the nude acting as if they own the place.

My point still stands - expect Trans men to be forced into using women’s facilities if legislation goes down that route, many women will be less than happy with that.

[KinooOrKinog]

'Men are rapists' isn't a good argument. Neither is SS Wattaj's 'Trans are just sex offenders'

That which is not forbidden is allowed. The onus is on those who wish to curtail liberty to justify it.

Still didn't answer the question. Why do you think men deserve the right to access women's single sex places?

[JustKeepSwimming]

Still didn't answer the question. Why do you think men deserve the right to access women's single sex places?

I answered it. No one to blame but yourself if you don't like the answer.

[wattaj]

We are almost there, you'll be goose stepping by tea time at this rate.

'Men are rapists' isn't a good argument. Neither is SS Wattaj's 'Trans are just sex offenders'

That which is not forbidden is allowed. The onus is on those who wish to curtail liberty to justify it.

My earlier posts have clearly stung, hence the need to deflect.

I can appreciate why you need to do this: you have no other argument in support of your position. But it does not help your case, nor does it weaken mine: facts will always triumph over feelings.

[KinooOrKinog]

I answered it. No one to blame but yourself if you don't like the answer.

Where? Indulge me.

[JustKeepSwimming]

Where? Indulge me.

Question: "You clearly think that they should have that right though. Why is that?"

Answer: "That which is not forbidden is allowed. The onus is on those who wish to curtail liberty to justify it."

[sadkingbilly]

geez - 9 pages of bolloks about bolloks (or the lack thereof)