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    #71
    Originally posted by vetran View Post


    Its about time we deported people from safe countries by default.
    So we need to deport people from countries like France, Germany, Australia and the USA?

    Other countries people commonly claim to have left have issues with human rights abuses.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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      #72
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

      So we need to deport people from countries like France, Germany, Australia and the USA?

      Other countries people commonly claim to have left have issues with human rights abuses.
      Many countries are considered safe for Asylum purposes, Albania, India & Romania are considered among such countries. Apparently human rights abuses are currently available in such places as York maybe the French want a few of our displaced citizens?

      If we expect every country to be as enlightened as the UK we need to abolish religion in every such country. Good luck with that.

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        #73
        Originally posted by vetran View Post

        Many countries are considered safe for Asylum purposes, Albania, India & Romania are considered among such countries.
        You can still claim asylum from those countries in other countries e.g. USA

        It depends what you are claiming as an individual.

        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        Apparently human rights abuses are currently available in such places as York maybe the French want a few of our displaced citizens?
        Do you mean we can get rid of Just Stop Oil?

        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #74
          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

          You can still claim asylum from those countries in other countries e.g. USA
          No free houses, money and healthcare in the USA though. Kind of odd these people desperate to escape human rights abuses are happy to travel through up to 6 Western countries to get here no?
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #75
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

            No free houses, money and healthcare in the USA though.
            Doesn't stop certain groups trying to get in there via Canada, Mexico or other American countries.

            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            Kind of odd these people desperate to escape human rights abuses are happy to travel through up to 6 Western countries to get here no?
            We need to promote Spanish as the international language of business.

            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #76
              Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

              Doesn't stop certain groups trying to get in there via Canada, Mexico or other American countries.
              Because there are no other options. Ask them if they want to stay in the States or get a free trip here and I'll bet I know what the majority will pick.


              We need to promote Spanish as the international language of business.
              If they are that desperate then a language barrier shouldn't be a problem. I'd rather live in a country with a different language (even though English is widely spoken) than cross the channel in a dinghy.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #77
                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                You can still claim asylum from those countries in other countries e.g. USA

                It depends what you are claiming as an individual.



                Do you mean we can get rid of Just Stop Oil?
                I have no problem with us taking verified Asylum seekers via official channels. Its the illegal nature that worries most people.

                How many we take and how we prepare for them (building homes, GPs, Roads, schools etc needs to reflect the influx) they will have to pay their way as well.

                Cameron suggested we set up an asylum clearing centre close to the source and give them temporary leave to remain so we retrain them to help rebuild their country when the fighting stops. These countries need to evolve and the only way I know to make that happen is to establish a middle class that brings jobs & prosperity, when war loses you money people tend to stop it.

                I reckon the Gendarmes would make Just Stop Oil protestors stop pretty darn quickly. Setting fire to their hands and a truncheon somewhere painful would focus their minds. Our police seem to want to poison them slowly with tannin and Lactose.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

                  No free houses, money and healthcare in the USA though. Kind of odd these people desperate to escape human rights abuses are happy to travel through up to 6 Western countries to get here no?
                  Actually there is free healthcare in the USA. Not as good as the NHS but far better than most Trumphole countries.

                  They know they will be rejected in France etc. they know they are economic migrants, I see Germany is starting to stagger under unlimited immigration.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post

                    Actually there is free healthcare in the USA. Not as good as the NHS but far better than most Trumphole countries.

                    They know they will be rejected in France etc. they know they are economic migrants, I see Germany is starting to stagger under unlimited immigration.
                    And this is what the reality is. So yes, lets treat the true asylum seeks with care and compassion but lets deal with the economic migrants robustly. No problem doing our bit but we need managed migration, not open door soft touch.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #80
                      Surely it can't be that hard stopping boats leaving France?

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