She ain't one of us....

[SueEllen]

Complaints about Braverman made to Bar board

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...acist-language

Lawyers and faith organisations have lodged a complaint with the Bar Standards Board claiming the home secretary Suella Braverman, a qualified barrister, has breached the body’s code of conduct with “racist sentiments and discriminatory narratives”.
Although Braverman has not practised as a barrister since becoming an MP in 2015 she is still subject to certain professional rules governing conduct by the Bar Standards Board which regulates barristers in England and Wales.

The body has a remit to examine the conduct of barristers who are not currently practising but who remain members of the profession and are subject to conduct rules and are expected to “conduct themselves in an appropriate manner”.

[malvolio]

Grauniad. Ignore.

I may be wrong but weren't the people prosecuted as part of the Bradford grooming gang(s) predominantly of sub-contitental ethnicity? It is a measure of the world we live in that accurate adjectives are now described as hate speech...

[WTFH]

Grauniad. Ignore.

I may be wrong but weren't the people prosecuted as part of the Bradford grooming gang(s) predominantly of sub-contitental ethnicity? It is a measure of the world we live in that accurate adjectives are now described as hate speech...

And aren’t kiddy-fiddling priests in UK/Ireland predominantly not of “sub continental ethnicity”?

[NotAllThere]

And aren’t kiddy-fiddling priests in UK/Ireland predominantly not of “sub continental ethnicity”?

So there's gangs of priests AND gangs of subcontinental ethnicity into grooming sexual victims. Both were covered up initially, but for rather differing reasons.

[xoggoth]

Of course there are lots of white Brit child fiddlers but the point about the Bradford grooming (and a number of other cities) is they were more coordinated and, due to concerns about being seen as racist, were initally ignored by the authorities. As I recall it was a Labour MP, forget her name, who first publicly expressed concerns.

I agree with Malvolio, we should avoid rhetoric that denigrates any group as a whole, but we should not ignore realities. Braverman is right on other things too, Albanians are disproportionately involved in drug crime and it is foolish not to crack down on unchecked migration from there. Links, all from liberal/lefty papers, not the DM:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uk-drugs-crime
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2225750.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...caine-28952848

[vetran]

So there's gangs of priests AND gangs of subcontinental ethnicity into grooming sexual victims. Both were covered up initially, but for rather differing reasons.

they were covered up for exactly the same reason the police and local bigwigs feared exposure so the abusers got a free pass.

[vetran]

And aren’t kiddy-fiddling priests in UK/Ireland predominantly not of “sub continental ethnicity”?

whataboutery becomes WhatTheFeckery.

[vetran]

luckily there is no racism or discrimination in the groups that accuse her

Nine organisations including the Society of Asian Lawyers, the Association of Muslim Lawyers and the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants have written to the Bar Standards Board urging it to investigate and take action against what they claim is racist and inflammatory language used by the home secretary about British men of Pakistani heritage and asylum seekers.

[SueEllen]

luckily there is no racism or discrimination in the groups that accuse her

Society of Asian lawyers aren't all Muslim and some are/were active members of the Conservative party.

Likewise not all Muslims are Asian.

But you know that before moaning about the groups being racist and discriminatory.

[malvolio]

Society of Asian lawyers aren't all Muslim and some are/were active members of the Conservative party.

Likewise not all Muslims are Asian.

But you know that before moaning about the groups being racist and discriminatory.

The point is, why do they need such labels. If their point is that "muslims" are being discriminated against (just like that Sunak feller, for example) then sticking a big label on themselves is not a good way to promote the point that they are integrated into society other than for a tiny minority of mouth breathers. Who would take no notice of such a label anyway.

If the UK population as a whole, regardless of religion, colour, sexual proclivities or anything else that's fashionable at the moment were to talk about themselves as just members of the UK population rather than labelling their particular and largely irrelevant sub-group with a big sign, they might just find a lot of their discrimination fades away, or never actually existed.