NHS satisfaction...

[WTFH]

oh look 2p per pill today in your local B&M the Tesco price was a while ago.

https://www.bmstores.co.uk/products/...ts-16pk-359497

wonder what they buy them for?

Since I didn't waste my time going through the whole NHS list, I just chose one of the bigger suppliers.
Given how worked up you are by the lies you've bought into, I thought I'd let you know a few of the cheaper options:
Medley Pharma are £13.50 per thousand
M&A PharmChem are £1.34 per hundred,
but the cheapest is:
Flamingo Pharma are £0.60 per hundred

[sadkingbilly]

[QUOTE=vetran;n4258349]oh look 2p per pill today in your local B&M the Tesco price was a while ago.

https://www.bmstores.co.uk/products/...ts-16pk-359497

wonder what they buy them for?[/QUOTE]

headaches etc, hth

[WTFH]

Daily Mail: roughly 15 times the price of a pack of paracetamol at supermarket Tesco.

Tesco = 65p per pack of 16.
NHS buy from Flamingo at 60p per 100.

Tesco is not 1/15th the price, rather it is over 6 time more expensive. The Daily Mail is wrong by a factor of 90.

[vetran]

Tesco = 65p per pack of 16.
NHS buy from Flamingo at 60p per 100.

Tesco is not 1/15th the price, rather it is over 6 time more expensive. The Daily Mail is wrong by a factor of 90.

No the price you found was more. Luckily Tesco supply prices online.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/257107498

They are still 39p.so Tesco are less than the NHS buying in bulk at 2.75 a pill.

Oh I see you added a new value of 60p per hundred despite assuring me that is is 2.75p per pill. Why such a wide range of price?

With the figures you supplied before the NHS BUYS PARACETEMOL in 100+ quantities at about a third more per pill than you personally can buy on the high street.

One assumes B&M and Tesco are making some profit on that and buy at say half their sale price so about 1p per pill?

Now if the NHS buys Paracetamol in 16s to prescribe what price would they be? Lets try comparing apples with apples not kumquats.

[WTFH]

No the price you found was more. Luckily Tesco supply prices online.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/257107498

They are still 39p.so Tesco are less than the NHS buying in bulk at 2.75 a pill.

Oh I see you added a new value of 60p per hundred despite assuring me that is is 2.75p per pill. Why such a wide range of price?

With the figures you supplied before the NHS BUYS PARACETEMOL in 100+ quantities at about a third more per pill than you personally can buy on the high street.

One assumes B&M and Tesco are making some profit on that and buy at say half their sale price so about 1p per pill?

Now if the NHS buys Paracetamol in 16s to prescribe what price would they be? Lets try comparing apples with apples not kumquats.

You really are struggling here.
The NHS can buy from multiple suppliers (I believe there are around 30 for paracetamol). My first post, I picked one of the suppliers that I knew and pulled up their prices.

Other suppliers charge different prices. So, I checked some of the other suppliers and found one that was considerably less.
Why is there such a wide range? Maybe it's free market economics, maybe it's cost of manufacture, maybe it's availability, there are so many factors in supply chain pricing that you'd burn your braincells out just to scratch the surface.


You're making assumptions about the cost that B&M buy their tablets at (you way 1/2 of 2p = 1p) or Tesco (you wrongly say 1/2 of 6.5p = 1p). Why not find out?
(Also note that I provided a link to the Tesco price earlier, even if you choose to ignore it)

And you're into your classic whataboutery now, what if the NHS bought 16 tablets from the most expensive supplier, would it cost 15 times more (Daily Mail claim) than buying them from Tesco?
Well, the answer is: it's not a valid question, because the NHS pricing is based on 100s.

Funny thing is, you know you're wrong and I'm right. If you thought for a minute I did not provide accurate figures for the NHS prices, you, or one of the other Wailers, would have called me out on it.

[sadkingbilly]

[d000hg]

Try looking?

Even by your standards this is just the most eye-wateringly stupid post. And yet you still continue to argue, despite having been proved utterly, beyond any measure of doubt, wrong.
You are at risk of making Trump seem smart... please just stop.

[vetran]

You really are struggling here.
The NHS can buy from multiple suppliers (I believe there are around 30 for paracetamol). My first post, I picked one of the suppliers that I knew and pulled up their prices.

Other suppliers charge different prices. So, I checked some of the other suppliers and found one that was considerably less.
Why is there such a wide range? Maybe it's free market economics, maybe it's cost of manufacture, maybe it's availability, there are so many factors in supply chain pricing that you'd burn your braincells out just to scratch the surface.


You're making assumptions about the cost that B&M buy their tablets at (you way 1/2 of 2p = 1p) or Tesco (you wrongly say 1/2 of 6.5p = 1p). Why not find out?
(Also note that I provided a link to the Tesco price earlier, even if you choose to ignore it)

And you're into your classic whataboutery now, what if the NHS bought 16 tablets from the most expensive supplier, would it cost 15 times more (Daily Mail claim) than buying them from Tesco?
Well, the answer is: it's not a valid question, because the NHS pricing is based on 100s.

Funny thing is, you know you're wrong and I'm right. If you thought for a minute I did not provide accurate figures for the NHS prices, you, or one of the other Wailers, would have called me out on it.

Well you didn't provide accurate prices for Tesco I added B&M then you change the reference price and its me that is in the wrong when you quote your wrong price and accuse me of being wrong based on it.

Well free market economics would cause the price from multiple suppliers to group together. Massive price variations in a very common generic drug seems unlikely. Its generic and common so manufacturing costs probably won't vary, I suspect manufacturers know how to forecast.

I don't know I am wrong, I side with multiple papers and the health minister. You seem to pick from a private price list and make it up.

[SueEllen]

Well you didn't provide accurate prices for Tesco I added B&M then you change the reference price and its me that is in the wrong when you quote your wrong price and accuse me of being wrong based on it.

Well free market economics would cause the price from multiple suppliers to group together. Massive price variations in a very common generic drug seems unlikely. Its generic and common so manufacturing costs probably won't vary, I suspect manufacturers know how to forecast.

I don't know I am wrong, I side with multiple papers and the health minister. You seem to pick from a private price list and make it up.

You must have missed Daily Mail and other newspapers posting stuff like this

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ercharging-nhs

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/...nhs-a-fortune/

[WTFH]

Well you didn't provide accurate prices for Tesco

Yes I did - I even linked to it. You just didn’t like the link.

I added B&M then you change the reference price and its me that is in the wrong when you quote your wrong price and accuse me of being wrong based on it.

I didn’t “change the reference price”, I had picked one supplier off the NHS price list, I then gave options for 3 other suppliers. I didn’t quote the wrong price.

Massive price variations in a very common generic drug seems unlikely. Its generic and common so manufacturing costs probably won't vary, I suspect manufacturers know how to forecast.

Something that is “unlikely” and “probably” won’t vary? Good luck with that.

I don't know I am wrong, I side with multiple papers and the health minister. You seem to pick from a private price list and make it up.

The “private price list” is actually the BNF (British National Formulary) provided by NICE (National Institute for Health and Care Excellence). It contains the NHS prices. It’s not made up by me.
But “multiple papers” have told you that it doesn’t exist, and if it did, all the facts in it are wrong.

Go on, knock yourself out:
https://bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/paracetamol/

…Then take some paracetamol for your sore head.