Update on JCB's pursuit of Hydrogen as their fuel of the future

[Hairlocks]

On point 6 - just as a single example. At Scotch Corner they are building a new outlet mall. Iniital work was done in 2019 but due to covid all work stopped until late last year.

During that time charging electric vehicles has become a most have item. So the road to Richmond was closed for 8 weeks to facilitate additional power cables into the site.

So it's very much the case that we can't provide the power required for HGVs to become electric.

It that a complete rebuild to backup Vetran's claim, or just a minor expansion?

I agree a lot of infrastructure needs to go in. Tesla see a big need for slow ev chargers where people work which is not being filled. Which would be a great help to all those people who don't have off-road parking to charge at home.

[eek]

That was main road to the main town in the PM’s constituency closed to allow more power to delivered to the other side of the road.

My post was just to emphasis exactly how much infrastructure work is required given that this is 1 tiny example

equally YDNP can’t have electric cars because the upgrade required before charging points can provided at their car parks is something like 2026 earliest

[darmstadt]

We now have hydrogen trains here and trams are coming soon...

Car batteries are being recycled, Renault do it, Volkswagen do it and I believe that there is a really rather good British company starting to get big in that area

[vetran]

Toyota is (was) the worlds leading car manufacture and has only just realised Tesla have left them behind. They where still recently claiming EV where not going to work like most of the legacy car manufacturers have done.

This video on the use of hydrogen is quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgmBkvrO0Dg the hydrogen expert only thinks there "might" be a market for hydrogen in construction vehicles

I think point 6 is not true, but even if it was would be easier to solve that a hydrogen infrastructure. Point 7 is the only real downside, Elon Musk claims it would be easier to recycle the batteries than mine new raw products, but we are not at the point yet to find out for real.

The grid can't support charging 100% electric cars. It has been evolving but you need a continuous 7.3 kw (30 amps so 3 - 5 power showers or about 5 - 10 ovens per house)

[Hairlocks]

The grid can't support charging 100% electric cars. It has been evolving but you need a continuous 7.3 kw (30 amps so 3 - 5 power showers or about 5 - 10 ovens per house)

The National Grid disagrees with you. https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories...misconceptions

[northernladuk]

The grid can't support charging 100% electric cars. It has been evolving but you need a continuous 7.3 kw (30 amps so 3 - 5 power showers or about 5 - 10 ovens per house)

That's one car. Sometime in the not so distant future there will be 3 or 4 outside a house.

[DealorNoDeal]

Electric seems like the best way to me. Burning tulip, even if it is clean like hydrogen, is not an efficient way of producing mechanical power.

I expect battery technology will evolve rapidly, and packs capable of doing many hundreds of miles will get a lot smaller and lighter.

Also, charging electric cars is a pretty good way of using off-peak electricity.

[Zigenare]

Electric seems like the best way to me. Burning tulip, even if it is clean like hydrogen, is not an efficient way of producing mechanical power.

I expect battery technology will evolve rapidly, and packs capable of doing many hundreds of miles will get a lot smaller and lighter.

Also, charging electric cars is a pretty good way of using off-peak electricity.

Ok, you've an interview 175 miles from home, the interview lasts for an hour and you have to drive 175 miles home. Which car would you drive?

[DealorNoDeal]

Ok, you've an interview 175 miles from home, the interview lasts for an hour and you have to drive 175 miles home. Which car would you drive?

A few years ago, I'd have said petrol, no question. Now, with greater range, faster charging and better availability of chargers, it's less clear cut.

But it's probably only a matter of time before 500 miles on a full charge is possible.

[DealorNoDeal]

BTW, the only thing that would put me off getting an electric car now, is the ridiculous price of them. I've been watching 5th Gear Recharged on Quest, and I can't get over the price of even non-premium models.

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PS. actually there is one other thing that would put me off; getting them repaired if they go wrong. I imagine only main dealers and specialist garages can work on the electrics.