RAF - ''offers to white men are paused to meet diversity targets"

[vetran]

Is this type of post acceptable?

It does sort of show the absurdity in the trans arena, convert and start winning swimming contests against the best natural women, when its pointed out that is a little unfair the wokeists attack. It is a little uncomfortable thinking about the situation when identifying individuals though.

[Gibbon]

What does make them the best of the best is the selection and training process. Do some research before engaging fingers with keyboard, there's a good chap.

Not so sure about Zig, the selection (for pilots and navs) is from a small pool of people who are officer material, so not necessarily the best pilots etc. Then again these days the planes fly themselves and they're designed to do that, so the pilot can concentrate on fighting. No more worrying about flight envelopes etc. Better having your play station whizzes these days as its all about battle management.

Also having served on front line sqns I can confirm that there are some Mavericks, but most aren't as the annual AA gunnery used to show in Cyprus.

[vetran]

...You end up with an organisation that is 93% white males.

In which case you work out why the non "white males" don't want to join and fix it. You don't just pick any one who isn't white male and back them regardless. Otherwise you end up with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Dizaei

and similar.

[TheDude]

What does make them the best of the best is the selection and training process. Do some research before engaging fingers with keyboard, there's a good chap.

My point is valid - the selection and training process is only relevant to those who apply.

Very few may make the grade but by definition these are not the best of the best - they are the best of the best of those who applied.

[WTFH]

In which case you work out why the non "white males" don't want to join and fix it. You don't just pick any one who isn't white male and back them regardless.

Who has said that you just "back them regardless"?

And who said that those who are not white males "don't want to join"?

If the issue is that recruitment drives primarily take place in expensive single sex boarding schools, then the fix is to run recruitment campaigns elsewhere. But as soon as you start running them elsewhere, then you'll get accused by Wailers of "pick(ing) anyone who isn't white male and back them regardless"

[Zigenare]

Who has said that you just "back them regardless"?

And who said that those who are not white males "don't want to join"?

If the issue is that recruitment drives primarily take place in expensive single sex boarding schools, then the fix is to run recruitment campaigns elsewhere. But as soon as you start running them elsewhere, then you'll get accused by Wailers of "pick(ing) anyone who isn't white male and back them regardless"

Perhaps watching the following might help you understand...

[Whorty]

That's Myleene before she had 3 children.

Her most recent vids have her cute children in it.

You really are trying to spoil my day aren't you ..... I refuse to listen to you and your heretic falsehoods!

[vetran]

Who has said that you just "back them regardless"?

And who said that those who are not white males "don't want to join"?

If the issue is that recruitment drives primarily take place in expensive single sex boarding schools, then the fix is to run recruitment campaigns elsewhere. But as soon as you start running them elsewhere, then you'll get accused by Wailers of "pick(ing) anyone who isn't white male and back them regardless"

Sadly that seems to be the way the Police have tried to equalise by selecting someone based on their Gender, race or sexuality then ignore when they commit gross misconduct such as domestic violence or corruption. Other diversity strategies do exist.

It seems the Police have doubled down and now only promote those with a degree so poor black lesbians are even less likely to get a look in.

I agree target the recruiting to attract those who currently don't want to join. "Come Join the PO-PO" ads?

What the RAF have done is exclude applicants based on colour and gender surely that is wrong?

[northernladuk]

...You end up with an organisation that is 93% white males.

And if that is the outcome with a totally fair application process that doesn't discriminate against anyone and that's the outcome then that's that. Manipulating it just for diversity reasons would be wholly wrong.

What they need to do is go way back and start educating kids from day one that everyone can be fighter pilots and there is nothing blocking them if they really want it. The best of the best in the pool of recruits is more diverse and that number will change. To exclude the major group for recruitment just for diverty is just wrong. Fix the problem earlier, not at the point they need to pass the tests and get recruited.

[Zigenare]

And if that is the outcome with a totally fair application process that doesn't discriminate against anyone and that's the outcome then that's that. Manipulating it just for diversity reasons would be wholly wrong.

What they need to do is go way back and start educating kids from day one that everyone can be fighter pilots and there is nothing blocking them if they really want it. The best of the best in the pool of recruits is more diverse and that number will change. To exclude the major group for recruitment just for diverty is just wrong. Fix the problem earlier, not at the point they need to pass the tests and get recruited.

Nope, they can't. There are a miriad of reasons why some won't make the grade. That shouldn't stop them from trying though.