Bob Crowe 2.0

[vetran]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ncil-flat.html

Rail baron Mick Lynch defends £100,000-a-year union boss' right to live in a council flat despite thousands of needy locals being stuck on waiting list for houses

• RMT deputy leader Eddie Dempsey lives in taxpayer-subsidised council house
• Challenged about his home, he claimed social housing 'should be option for all'
• Mick Lynch said 'When he's ready to move I assume he will move' in response

nice!

[AtW]

No "means testing" for tax-payer funded housing?

[NotAllThere]

Scargill was just as bad.

[eek]

No "means testing" for tax-payer funded housing?

He only got the job last October.

It's a 4 year contract which may not be renewed if he isn't re-elected.

He pays the full rent on the place.

It's an utter none story.

Scargill was just as bad.

Scargill lives in the Barbican - there are and never has been any council rented property there - it's all privately owned (leasehold) and always has been...

[vetran]

He only got the job last October.

It's a 4 year contract which may not be renewed if he isn't re-elected.

He pays the full rent on the place.

It's an utter none story.

Scargill lives in the Barbican - there are and never has been any council rented property there - it's all privately owned (leasehold) and always has been...

Even full council rent is much below private rent. I would make it a scale whose top is 20% above private rent. Then discount it by need. I have friends who did need a council house 25 years ago when she fell pregnant quite young but their joint earnings are now ~ £90,000 and they pay £127 a week for a 3 bed house with only one child. If they die they can pass the tenancy on.Is that fair on people who actually need it? If this were a Conservative quite rightly they would be pilloried.

He added: ‘He [Bob Crow] lived in a council house and he said he was a true blue socialist. To me he wasn’t – he was a hypocrite.’

A neighbour said their rent was £1,000 a month for a two-bedroom property with a balcony similar to Mr Dempsey’s flat. They said the rent includes the cost of heating.

By comparison, a private two-bedroom flat nearby was listed for £3,000 a month yesterday. When asked why Mr Dempsey hadn’t considered moving out, an RMT spokesman said: ‘He wants to live in London, which has been his home since he first started working on the railways... Eddie thinks publicly owned accommodation, should be an option for all.’

Tory MP Andrew Bridgen said: ‘He can afford to buy his own property, but he chooses to block someone from having access to council housing who needs it. The RMT are a bunch of hypocrites and they’re also Mr Putin’s useful idiots.’

[WTFH]

If this were a Conservative quite rightly they would be pilloried.

You mean like the Wail and the OP have done?

[vetran]

You mean like the Wail and the OP have done?

yes do you think they should ignore it?

[SueEllen]

Even full council rent is much below private rent. I would make it a scale whose top is 20% above private rent. Then discount it by need. I have friends who did need a council house 25 years ago when she fell pregnant quite young but their joint earnings are now ~ £90,000 and they pay £127 a week for a 3 bed house with only one child. If they die they can pass the tenancy on.Is that fair on people who actually need it? If this were a Conservative quite rightly they would be pilloried.

You are aware the Tories have been in for the last 12 years and Johnson's government has a large majority?

So there was nothing stopping the Tories from legislating to ensure that people in the top 10% of earners aren't legible for social housing if their circumstances change.

I suggest you join the Tory party and campaign on that issue if it upsets you so much.

[SueEllen]

yes do you think they should ignore it?

They ignored Johnson partying during lockdown.

[vetran]

You are aware the Tories have been in for the last 12 years and Johnson's government has a large majority?

So there was nothing stopping the Tories from legislating to ensure that people in the top 10% of earners aren't legible for social housing if their circumstances change.

I suggest you join the Tory party and campaign on that issue if it upsets you so much.

Well what actually needs to happen is effective means testing throughout their life. Its entirely possible that you deserve a council house in your teens but you don't in your thirties. That is why the Tories introduced fixed term tenancies in 1988.

However Housing associations and Councils don't like the idea of kicking people out of their "home" when they get to 5 years so it never really happens and not all tenants join on a 5 year tenancy. Many longer serving council house tenants were issued with Dynasty tenancies where they can't be removed and have the right to pass it on to their kids this guy probably has such a tenancy the councils weren't big on fixed term tenancies.

I suggest we put everyone we legally can on 5 year tenancies with a means test at the end of 5 years. Also we should make the rent equate to 20% more than the local private rent and discount or tax according to need so social housing becomes prohibitively expensive if you don't need it. If this guy was paying £3,600 a month he would soon move. instead poorer tax payers are giving him £2000 a month which is hardly fair.