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    #11
    Originally posted by TheDude View Post
    Tax those who live on hereditary wealth that has been passed through the family for generations/centuries.
    Great idea. What would be call this novel tax on inherited wealth though? Perhaps "Inheritance Tax?"
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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      #12
      Originally posted by Snooky View Post

      I know that was tongue in cheek, but the UK needs a much younger population to help support the top-heavy age pyramid we currently have. So more children - within reason - would be a good thing. Euthanasia or a major uncontrolled pandemic are alternative options.....
      We don't need younger population we need to be a successful early adopter of automation.

      I have sat there looking at huge factories that were either automated and offshored in the last 30 years. In the next 30 I expect many staff volumes to decrease.

      Easy / current automation projects

      1. Picking fruit & vegetables - can be almost completely automated now , needs funding to automate.
      2. Front of house in takeaways/shops - app or kiosk.
      3. Street cleaning - drones.
      4. take away and parcel delivery - drones,
      5. construction - factory built/printed buildings
      6. Dog walking - drones
      7. bus / taxi / train driving automated vehicles.
      8. monitoring old people - done via alexa etc.
      9. Warehouse - drones/robots.
      10. Baggage handling - drones/robots.
      11. cooking in takeaway - robots/dispensers,

      in 10 years there will be few unskilled & semi skilled jobs left.

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        #13
        How are you going to automate care for the elderly?
        Are you basing your ideal world on Futurama?
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #14
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          How are you going to automate care for the elderly?
          Are you basing your ideal world on Futurama?
          In Japan they are working on it.

          The problem is people, whether they are elderly or not, want daily human interaction. So even if they have robots doing most of their care they would still need someone to go in to chat to.

          Also have you been to one of those Amazon shops? They are empty and the ones I have noticed are next to a Tesco or other Metro which aren't.
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #15
            Originally posted by Snooky View Post

            I know that was tongue in cheek, but the UK needs a much younger population to help support the top-heavy age pyramid we currently have. So more children - within reason - would be a good thing. Euthanasia or a major uncontrolled pandemic are alternative options.....
            It was good when the uk could ship the old farts to die in Spain so they'd be using their healthcare system instead of the nhs. Too bad the turkeys voted for Christmas.

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              #16
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              How are you going to automate care for the elderly?
              Are you basing your ideal world on Futurama?
              I can volunteer you for a suicide booth if you want!

              Well SONY are big into robots for such purposes because Japan has exactly the same problem. Pretty much every developed country has. The solution is not uncontrolled immigration, the nations that solve this will stay as profitable countries the ones that don't will be fall into disrepair.

              Once we get over Dementia - treatments are imminent, then many more people will be able to live their older years with minimum assistance. I know many people in their 70s & 80s living very happily in their own homes. That normally changes when one of them suffers Alzheimer's or similar but until then lets keep them in their homes.

              This is a good example of how sensible technology use can make a massive difference. This is using technology available retail for £10.

              https://www.local.gov.uk/case-studie...ng-amazon-echo







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                #17
                Originally posted by vetran View Post

                We don't need younger population we need to be a successful early adopter of automation.
                Who pays the taxes to fund your pension and your care?

                The UK economy is a form of ponzi scheme, it requires a growing younger population and growing tax revenues to feed to the top (the elderly, those requiring care, etc). If population growth slows down, then the scheme falls apart.
                …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PCTNN View Post

                  It was good when the uk could ship the old farts to die in Spain so they'd be using their healthcare system instead of the nhs. Too bad the turkeys voted for Christmas.
                  I use to find it interesting when their sons and daughters were complaining because they and their parent didn't speak Spanish so couldn't get all the care they needed.
                  "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post

                    Who pays the taxes to fund your pension and your care?

                    The UK economy is a form of ponzi scheme, it requires a growing younger population and growing tax revenues to feed to the top (the elderly, those requiring care, etc). If population growth slows down, then the scheme falls apart.
                    My pension is sorted and I doubt I will run through the pot on care.
                    The actual problem is who is going to pay the pensions & care of those less fortunate than me? It used to be people like us that funded those bills its just that they have all gone up.

                    and there you go that is the problem. The times they are a changing!

                    As we have seen the wages are falling and costs going up, we need to rethink. Throwing in cheap staff subsidised by the government by in work benefits is obviously not a solution as that just means multinationals make more money in tax havens.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                      I use to find it interesting when their sons and daughters were complaining because they and their parent didn't speak Spanish so couldn't get all the care they needed.
                      It seems we are doing that for judicial cases isn't it great to raise our standards to our EU ex compatriots? Makes you proud to be as discriminatory as the spanish government!

                      https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/co...102440.article

                      In Aldred v Cham, Lord Justice Coulson said the status of the claimant as a child, or as someone who could not speak English, was ‘nothing whatever to do with the dispute itself’. He upheld the appeal by the defendant in the RTA claim to deny recovery of disbursements for work that did not fall within the fixed recoverable costs regime.

                      Required to interpret the line in the Civil Procedure Rules which allows recovery where sums have been ‘reasonably incurred due to a particular feature of the dispute’, the judge said: ‘Age, linguistic ability and mental wellbeing are all characteristics of the claimant regardless of the dispute. They are not generated by or linked in any way to the dispute itself.’

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