Remote working

[d000hg]

Given that I know someone who lives in Greenwich who cannot do a video call because his internet connectivity is so bad - you are being a prima donna on the basis thatr you have made an assumption that may not in all places be possible.

Ah yes, find a niche edge case to justify the general case. Like arguing abortion laws based on rape pregnancies.

Also, if you don't have proper internet you should go and work in the office or find somewhere that does. Basic professionalism.

For a second example I have a bug in teams on the dev desktop that means if I use Video and then need to share my screen the call disconnects. Again the fix is simple, I don't use video if I know I'm going to have to share my screen.

And you lack the nous to figure out a fix or workaround? Like, turn off the camera before you share screen and turn it back on afterwards.

[jainnode]

[BlasterBates]

I'm happy to defer to your expertise here. Consider these 2 scenarios:
* You can watch the video of a scrum meeting with no audio.
* You can listen to the audio of a scrum meeting with no video.

Which would give you more information? I.e. is one of them above 50% and the other below, or are they both equal?

NB I'm not saying that video is useless, I'm just questioning the "60-80%" claim.

We've never used video on any of our meetings over the last two years and no-one missed anything. According to the "theory" we should have had massive problems because over half the information was missing.

I think someone should carry out a scientific study to compare a group that uses video and a group that doesn't. One of the significant advantages of not being on video is when the meeting isn't relevant you can get on with your work rather than staring poker faced at the camera communicating your "interest".

I suspect that groups that don't switch on the video are far more productive.

[d000hg]

If you're in a meeting you should be paying attention not working on something else. If the meeting isn't productive/relevant you shouldn't be in the meeting.

[BlasterBates]

If you're in a meeting you should be paying attention not working on something else. If the meeting isn't productive/relevant you shouldn't be in the meeting.

You can listen as well as working. You can then chip in when it's relevant. In planing meetings you need to be there but your undivided attention is only needed when your ticket comes up.

There are those who are innovative and can find more effective ways to work, and those who stick to tradition and dogma.

[hobnob]

Looking at this another way, if I join a meeting and everyone else has their camera on then I'll do the same (unless there's a specific reason not to, e.g. internet problems); I'd come across as a stroppy teenager if I said "I'm not gonna and you can't make me!" However, if nobody else has their camera on then I'm happy to leave mine off too, and that applies to the majority of the meetings that I attend.

[psychocandy]

Agent contacted me the other day about a role. I said as long as it's fully remote/outside IR35 tell me more.

Then he called me and some of the choice things he said

• You only live 50 miles from the office
• You would need to do 5 days in office
• What about 1 day a week from home
• Everyone is back in the office now Covid is over
• What about 2 days remote?

I of course told him to piss off.

What is it with these companies thinking people will work in an office when they have multiple other offers working remote?. The pandoras box has been open.

Yeh I found that recently. Roles that were 50 miles from me their attitude seemed to be "Oh good you can come into the office", roles that were 2-3 hours away they didnt entertain it because they knew it would never happen.

It worked out better getting a role miles away because they weren't tempted to push it then....

See what you mean though. I had a choice of two roles, one totally remote, and one 50 miles away, nowhere to park in city centre, 2 days per week in office minimum.
I guess before I would have jumped at a gig 50 miles away, 3 days WFH but these days - couple of hours driving twice a week, nah no thanks.

[vetran]

Drove past sunny Swindon today stopped before hitting Boyo land.

My one day in the office a month. Third different site in the quarter. Holding out for Australia!

[ladymuck]

All these people worrying about what their background looks like for their meetings, what's up with using the blur function or adding a stock / random image? While on holiday in Grenada last year, I look several photos purposely for using as my background for Teams meetings. Many a time I was working from the sun lounger by the sea

[NotAllThere]

Yesterday I was on a Teams call. We all had video running but any non-verbal communication was probably lost on us as we were too busy watching our colleagues baby playing next to her mum.

For backgrounds, I've done swimming pool, beach, frozen river and on the moon. But usually I just blur.