Originally posted by Gibbon
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Plenty of people who believe in God are bad people, I get into trouble when I call them nutters as they have no regard for humanity. I would say this of the crusaders and their opponents , Torquemada, Hitler or the Modern Islam abusing terrorists and dictators.
Ah now that is a question, which comes first the cross or humanity? After millennia of slavery and evolving Christianity Wilberforce and others put this country into hock and on a war footing to stop it, I would say it is doubtful that would have happened without religion. It also required society to evolve so that slavery was no longer seen as attractive or as necessary as it would have been in St Paul's day. We moved away from capital punishment because of a similar set of people. Neither would have been possible 2000 years ago.
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