I think you are mixing up two types of issue here. You seem to be condoning behaviours that are not acceptable by saying that the fault is with the victim if they don't take preventative measures.
No-one should expect to get mugged. Irrespective of their state of drunkenness or what they have about their person. Calling you an idiot for being mugged is called victim blaming. This is exactly what happens to women if you swapped mugged for raped, and rolex for a short skirt. You are an idiot for saying that the person WHO CHOSE TO MUG you was entirely within their rights to do so.
This is reasonable. If someone makes you feel uncomfortable, avoid and don't engage.
As above, no-one should expect to get burgled. Securing your home is sensible but by your logic, my flat in W8 should be empty considering all the times I've forgotten to lock my kitchen door.
That's not something you can avoid as you can't tell which driver is going to have a benny over something.
This is the fault of society in that women are taught to be fearful because men are not taught to behave properly and men are not taught to challenge each other when they do behave badly - in fact, men are taught to encourage and reinforce each other's bad behaviour. It's very nice that this happened but it shouldn't be necessary.
Crime does happen every day but telling people (in your completely mixed up way) that the only way to stop people who chose to behave badly is to make sure that women (a) are never alone, (b) stay sober, (c) wear modest clothing, then we end up with Afghanistan. If proper action was taken against people who broke the law AND society stopped telling men that their attitudes and behaviours towards women was acceptable (every person is responsible for enforcing this) then we'd be in a far better state.
Locking yourself away in fear does not make the problem go away.
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If I noticed a nutter off his face when at a party I would avoid him. Happened a few times.
If I leave my house unlocked I am probably going to be burgled.
If I "get in the way" of some idiot in a fast car / white van I could be a victim of road rage.
If I were young & female walking home in the dark/abandoned area I would quite reasonably feel unsafe.
My daughters were always collected or followed on life 360 from work etc or expected to travel in a pack of friends
I always walked or dropped girlfriends home after dates. My Daughters male friends frequently walk her and her female friends home after parties or met me/their parents part way so we could collect her.
My daughters were always collected or followed on life 360 from work etc or expected to travel in a pack of friends
I always walked or dropped girlfriends home after dates. My Daughters male friends frequently walk her and her female friends home after parties or met me/their parents part way so we could collect her.
I am not suggesting in any way the way the met didn't screw up big time with Couzens but people working out how to avoid people like that is sensible. Very few rapists or murderers are actually policemen but quite a few like the dark & abandoned areas.
I wish the world were perfect but it clearly isn't, so live with it and protect yourself.
Why do you think we should believe and behave like crime doesn't happen?
I wish the world were perfect but it clearly isn't, so live with it and protect yourself.
Why do you think we should believe and behave like crime doesn't happen?
Locking yourself away in fear does not make the problem go away.
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