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You already have - worse you are running away from it rather than fixing the issues.Originally posted by lorakeen View Post
I don't want a failed project in my portfolio.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by Andy2 View Post
finally you got itIt isn't a failed project. You need to spin the description of the project and its outcome to define "success" to mean success at doing what the client wants you to get done, within the constraints that it imposes, irrespective of whether that ends up benefiting the client.Originally posted by lorakeen View Post
I don't want a failed project in my portfolio.Comment
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I don't have the possibility of removing the PM and I can't revert time.Originally posted by eek View Post
You already have - worse you are running away from it rather than fixing the issues.Comment
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It sounds like the client is treating you like an employee (are you inside IR35?) and you're accepting it as such. If you truly thought of yourself as a supplier, you'd be speaking to your client about the issues being put in your way that are not allowing you to deliver the service they're paying for.Originally posted by lorakeen View Post
I don't have the possibility of removing the PM and I can't revert time.
I get that running away from such challenges is the easier option for some, however.Comment
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You have a PM now, should make your life easier. For each deliverable get a SoW or similar. For every change to this get the PM to raise a CR. You then have a clear documented route from original spec to what was delivered and all changes in between.
Even easier if you're under Agile as each sprint becomes it's own SoW (kind of) ... so deliver the sprint as required.
Problems start when it all goes 'us' vs 'them', PM vs techies ..... really doesn't need to be like that. Let the PM do the boring, stakeholder management, paperwork cr@p, and they can free you up to the what you are paid to do.
Techies who try to be PMs too rarely turns out well (and vice-versa of course)I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man
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That would require a competent PM, they tend to be rare. The one he is describing seems out of their depth.Originally posted by Whorty View PostYou have a PM now, should make your life easier. For each deliverable get a SoW or similar. For every change to this get the PM to raise a CR. You then have a clear documented route from original spec to what was delivered and all changes in between.
Even easier if you're under Agile as each sprint becomes it's own SoW (kind of) ... so deliver the sprint as required.
Problems start when it all goes 'us' vs 'them', PM vs techies ..... really doesn't need to be like that. Let the PM do the boring, stakeholder management, paperwork cr@p, and they can free you up to the what you are paid to do.
Techies who try to be PMs too rarely turns out well (and vice-versa of course)
Plenty of ex techies who are PMs, of course the ones who actually study the techniques and enjoy the interactions tend to do better than others.
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I have a phrase for this when its obvious its out of my hands. You have shown them best practices, possible savings highlighted risks and still they persist. I only say it in my head but it helps.Originally posted by eek View Post
You already have - worse you are running away from it rather than fixing the issues.
I can't fix stupid.
When that happens too often I go get a better job. If you stay it drags you down.Comment
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Nepotism usually cocks everything up.Originally posted by ladymuck View PostI'd be interested in why a project that was running just fine suddenly needed a PM.
I'm in a different trade as you all know, but it happens over here too. I have a labourer, from Zimbawe, nothing is too much trouble for him, he's done some really tulipe stuff whilst he's been here because, well that's what the job needs. Had to show him how to use a Kango but that's part of being a manager.
And my boss wants to sack him and bring his fat useless son in as labourer. Because why? I've already been told all he wants to do is lay on his bed playing video games, he will kill this job. It will turn into a tulipehawk's nest again.
And I'll leave for pastures new if he does it. Lots of building work out there. I've warned him.Last edited by Lost It; 13 August 2021, 09:42.Comment
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I've had a few college graduates who think because they have sent an email it will **just** happen.Originally posted by TwoWolves View Post
A lot of management don't understand why anything in IT would take more than a few weeks.
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