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[DaveB]

This is nonsense. About 10% of our energy is 'renewable' and like half of that is burning trees we bring in from the US.

Nope.

It's actually approaching 50% based on the numbers from 2020 and assuming a similar rate of growth for 2021.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...lectricity.pdf

In 2020, the proportion of electricity generation coming from renewable sources exceeded that of fossil fuels for the first time in the published data series. The renewable share rose sharply in 2020, to 43.1 per cent of UK generation, an increase of 6.2 percentage points compared to 2019. This was substantially higher than the share of generation from fossil fuels (37.7 per cent) for the first time in the published data series. All the renewable technologies including bioenergy saw increases in generation shares in 2020, with the largest being a 3.7 percentage point increase in wind generation share. Wind provided 24 per cent of the total generation in 2020. The share of generation from low carbon sources increased again in 2020 to 59.3 per cent, up 5.0 percentage points compared to 2019, because of the high share of generation from renewables.

Plant biomass, it isn't just "burning trees", accounts for just under 20% of total renewable generation.

https://assets.publishing.service.go.../DUKES_6.4.xls

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Nope.

It's actually approaching 50% based on the numbers from 2020 and assuming a similar rate of growth for 2021.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...lectricity.pdf



Plant biomass, it isn't just "burning trees", accounts for just under 20% of total renewable generation.

https://assets.publishing.service.go.../DUKES_6.4.xls

I would use National Grid: Live Status (iamkate.com) rather than those Stats, simply because it's real time and has some graphs.

And it's not 50% it's actually:

Renewables (solar, wind, hydro) 26-30%.
Nuclear 15%
Biomass 6%
interconnectors from europe 15%.
Gas Coal 33-40%

[minestrone]

Nope.

It's actually approaching 50% based on the numbers from 2020 and assuming a similar rate of growth for 2021.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...lectricity.pdf



Plant biomass, it isn't just "burning trees", accounts for just under 20% of total renewable generation.

https://assets.publishing.service.go.../DUKES_6.4.xls

You've went off and got me numbers for electricity. I said energy.

These are the kinds of obvious traps they set for children doing basic physics exams.

[WTFH]

You've went off and got me numbers for electricity. I said energy.

These are the kinds of obvious traps they set for children doing basic physics exams.

Provide data to back up your claim of 10% renewable energy.

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Provide data to back up your claim of 10% renewable energy.

Domestic heating via gas is going to be the main factor here.

Trying to find suitable figures on google is however something I've failed to do quickly so meh - I'll agree with minestrone is my quick results point at a figure well below 10% once you start looking at gas heating.

[minestrone]

A burning issue: biomass is the biggest source of renewable energy consumed in the UK - Office for National Statistics

So that is the official figures. Reached 10% in 2017 and bio was 40% of that

I'm sure that it's higher now, they are always building these things, I doubt though non bio renewables have doubled in 4 years. But the "we're going to have so much of this green stuff in a generation we need massive battery farms" initial comment is clearly nonsense.

Would need to have more than 10 of what we have now and considering turbines only last for 25 years then it's gibberish.

'Green energy' is a total scam.

[minestrone]

I mean the US is murdering forests to export wood here by ship, I think Germany is using loads of US wood in energy. And that is all lovely and green.

But you start burning some local wood in a log burner for heat rather than using gas, and you get these environmental groups, probably funded by the energy sector saying it's a major source of pollution

Hearths on fire: UK residents incensed by pollution from wood burners | Air pollution | The Guardian

...and people actually take this in and nobody questions it. Nuts.

[DaveB]

You've went off and got me numbers for electricity. I said energy.

These are the kinds of obvious traps they set for children doing basic physics exams.

So what other forms of energy are you referring to?

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So what other forms of energy are you referring to?

The issue is going to be domestic heating.....

[WTFH]

The issue is going to be domestic heating.....

and transportation.

The 2019 figures are massaged in such ways to be impossible to get a clear answer, but it appears that over the last dozen years, renewables businesses haven't supported the "right" people enough.

The total for "non-CO2 producing" energy is about 19%.