Reply to: Audi E Tron Business Lease - time to go electric!

[vetran]

I would have thought the operating company rather than TfL should carry the insurance?

Possibly it can be an umbrella if the vehicles are rented/sponsored.

[ladymuck]

I would have thought the operating company rather than TfL should carry the insurance?

[vetran]

",... in addition to self-insuring". With buses. TFL hold a bond for a large sum to cover accidents, in other words, they insure themselves.

So they are insured then?


However AIUI in this case the self insurance is for TFL's risk, if their bus driver hits a traffic light and runs over a pedestrian the Third party insurance may pay for the cost of replacing the traffic light and the Pedestrian' s injuries. TFL pay for repairing the bus. The risk on a bond is unlimited so killing a few pedestrians (a common occurrence) would run through £500,000 rather quickly.

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/fleet-ma...ncing-the-risk
oh look an expert..

The term ‘self-insurance’ can often be misunderstood and mistaken for the scheme which involves placing a £500,000 bond with the Government (see panel, page 30).

Instead, self-insurance can also mean taking out a third-party insurance policy so the fleet takes the risk of any collision damage to its own vehicles.

“Virtually no business on the planet actually completely self-insures – the risks of having to pay a multi-million pound loss are too great for almost any commercial enterprise to bear,” says Peter Blanc, group chief executive of insurance broker Aston Scott Group.

“The term ‘self-insurance’ should really be called ‘risk sharing’ as that is a more accurate description of the arrangement,” Blanc adds.

[Paddy]

FTFY - they buy Third party insurance

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/fc-201703...ce-renewal.pdf

",... in addition to self-insuring". With buses. TFL hold a bond for a large sum to cover accidents, in other words, they insure themselves.

[vetran]

Trivia: London buses are partially self insured.

FTFY - they buy Third party insurance

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/fc-201703...ce-renewal.pdf

[ladymuck]

Trivia: London buses are not insured.

[Paddy]

I hope the Audi can tell if you drive off with a door open

https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/18/londo...door-15113235/

Trivia: London buses are not insured.

[ladymuck]

Good job you didn't opt for a Chevy.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08...lty-batteries/

[ladymuck]

I hope the Audi can tell if you drive off with a door open

https://metro.co.uk/2021/08/18/londo...door-15113235/

[WTFH]

The issue is going to be domestic heating.....

and transportation.

The 2019 figures are massaged in such ways to be impossible to get a clear answer, but it appears that over the last dozen years, renewables businesses haven't supported the "right" people enough.

The total for "non-CO2 producing" energy is about 19%.

[eek]

So what other forms of energy are you referring to?

The issue is going to be domestic heating.....

[DaveB]

You've went off and got me numbers for electricity. I said energy.

These are the kinds of obvious traps they set for children doing basic physics exams.

So what other forms of energy are you referring to?

[minestrone]

I mean the US is murdering forests to export wood here by ship, I think Germany is using loads of US wood in energy. And that is all lovely and green.

But you start burning some local wood in a log burner for heat rather than using gas, and you get these environmental groups, probably funded by the energy sector saying it's a major source of pollution

Hearths on fire: UK residents incensed by pollution from wood burners | Air pollution | The Guardian

...and people actually take this in and nobody questions it. Nuts.

[minestrone]

A burning issue: biomass is the biggest source of renewable energy consumed in the UK - Office for National Statistics

So that is the official figures. Reached 10% in 2017 and bio was 40% of that

I'm sure that it's higher now, they are always building these things, I doubt though non bio renewables have doubled in 4 years. But the "we're going to have so much of this green stuff in a generation we need massive battery farms" initial comment is clearly nonsense.

Would need to have more than 10 of what we have now and considering turbines only last for 25 years then it's gibberish.

'Green energy' is a total scam.

[eek]

Provide data to back up your claim of 10% renewable energy.

Domestic heating via gas is going to be the main factor here.

Trying to find suitable figures on google is however something I've failed to do quickly so meh - I'll agree with minestrone is my quick results point at a figure well below 10% once you start looking at gas heating.