Originally posted by d000hg
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Covid - actually Boris may emerge as vaguely competent.
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We do a heck of a lot of testing and sequence a really high proportion (I think I read it was 50% but could be misremembering) of positive tests to determine the variant. Germany now sequence less than 1% of positive results so they have hardly any idea what variants are doing the rounds.
It was in the torygraph the other day. Will try and dig out a link.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
Which is why I quote France & Italy who are comparable.
France still has a lower death rate than the UK, even after their 3rd wave - which we missed. I don't think they are going to catch us up and when we consider how many tens of thousands of lives the vaccines saved, it's a big disparity.
We do have Belgium, but they seem to be the outlier really. It is curious why we were so hard hit despite a quite obedient population and good health service.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View Post
Italy is not really comparable. Their health service was overwhelmed in the first wave which is the worst case scenario where you get more deaths, and yet until vaccinations we were far worse off than them. And they're not really in the same league economically or infrastructure-wise.
France still has a lower death rate than the UK, even after their 3rd wave - which we missed. I don't think they are going to catch us up and when we consider how many tens of thousands of lives the vaccines saved, it's a big disparity.
We do have Belgium, but they seem to be the outlier really. It is curious why we were so hard hit despite a quite obedient population and good health service.
Italy's experience in COVID is partially due to their decisions on how to manage it. Which is what we are discussing, BOJO could have sat back and allowed it to overwhelm the NHS he thankfully didn't.
If you look at deaths per 1 million of population France is at 1,678 and UK at 1,836 so about 10,000 more deaths before France overtakes us. Their vaccination levels are well below us.
Belgium has already overtaken us.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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150k dead and counting, that's not competent, even vaguely.
Competent is what China did (and they had a lot less time for it), Australia, New Zealand.
Boris should get 150k consecutive life terms (in prison) for his management.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View Post150k dead and counting, that's not competent, even vaguely.
Competent is what China did (and they had a lot less time for it), Australia, New Zealand.
Boris should get 150k consecutive life terms (in prison) for his management.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deathsAlways forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Postwell as it is 127K with Covid as the cause he has already exceeded your expectations.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deathsComment
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Originally posted by AtW View Post
I'll accept reduction of his sentence to 127k consecutive life termsAlways forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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As more and more data comes out, it actually looks like lock downs and responses have very little effect on the progress of the virus unless you are an Aus or New Zealand
comparison of the states in the US that took harder measures versus those with a leave it up to the individual method - the outcomes are roughly the same
At the end of the day viruses do what they do and you'll still end up with the same amount of dead at the end of it - it just changes whether it happens quickly or whether you drag it outComment
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Originally posted by mookiemoo View PostAs more and more data comes out, it actually looks like lock downs and responses have very little effect on the progress of the virus unless you are an Aus or New Zealand
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