Chauvin Verdict

[vetran]

There may be a simple answer to explain it (eg. systemic racism) but maybe not.

The figures don't support that being the only cause but that is what we are asked to believe.

[Lost It]

There isn't an answer until you know the question, if it's poverty that creates the conditions, the US should be rich enough to deal with that. If it's drugs, well that's a filthy rich industry all of it's own and we can only guess at what pressures the US government is under from OC to keep that particular profit making business going without any real interference.

Gun crime, well that's never going to stop whilst the average US citizen believes it's ok to have more firearms in the home than the average WW2 soldier took onto the beach on D day. That's a mentality problem, probably relevant when there was a risk of lawlessness or wild animals, or whatever the risks were when the founding fathers thought that one up.

The Police officer who goes to work every day over there not knowing if he will be shot, stabbed, clubbed, run over, crushed or assaulted is a type of human that is either slightly nuts or doesn't care? I don't know but if my life expectancy was at risk because of those conditions I'd quickly find something else to do.

It appears a lot of officers are thinking the same way over there. Why risk the chance you will finish up in court or prison for trying to do your job of protection the masses? Not worth any kind of wage is it.
20/20 hindsight is brilliant and about as much use as a screen door on a submarine.

[vetran]

There isn't an answer until you know the question, if it's poverty that creates the conditions, the US should be rich enough to deal with that. If it's drugs, well that's a filthy rich industry all of it's own and we can only guess at what pressures the US government is under from OC to keep that particular profit making business going without any real interference.

Gun crime, well that's never going to stop whilst the average US citizen believes it's ok to have more firearms in the home than the average WW2 soldier took onto the beach on D day. That's a mentality problem, probably relevant when there was a risk of lawlessness or wild animals, or whatever the risks were when the founding fathers thought that one up.

The Police officer who goes to work every day over there not knowing if he will be shot, stabbed, clubbed, run over, crushed or assaulted is a type of human that is either slightly nuts or doesn't care? I don't know but if my life expectancy was at risk because of those conditions I'd quickly find something else to do.

It appears a lot of officers are thinking the same way over there. Why risk the chance you will finish up in court or prison for trying to do your job of protection the masses? Not worth any kind of wage is it.
20/20 hindsight is brilliant and about as much use as a screen door on a submarine.

Its gone from thankyou for your service to screw you for your service.

I avoided joining the Military, healthcare and Police as there was far too much risk and responsibility for me. I have to admire those who have the guts to do it.

[NotAllThere]

There may be a simple answer to explain it (eg. systemic racism) but maybe not.

it's part of it, in my view, but also historical reasons, continued injustices for many many years after emancipation.

The simplest answer that encompasses all the facets is - they're American.

[minestrone]

The dominant ethnicity and culture in the South was working class Scots and Scots Irish. Black people ended up there and absorbed the extreme religions and behaviours of that group.

When the blacks migrated away in the 60s they took the worst behaviours and left the religion behind.

I thought that theory was crap at first but I have to say it sounds about right. It's from black rednecks and white liberals.

[NotAllThere]

The dominant ethnicity and culture in the South was working class Scots and Scots Irish. Black people ended up there and absorbed the extreme religions and behaviours of that group.

When the blacks migrated away in the 60s they took the worst behaviours and left the religion behind.

I thought that theory was crap at first but I have to say it sounds about right. It's from black rednecks and white liberals.

Very coherent. Well done.

[vetran]

it's part of it, in my view, but also historical reasons, continued injustices for many many years after emancipation.

The simplest answer that encompasses all the facets is - they're American.

Yep because the people that gave us Einstein, Edison, Hopper and Oppenheimer are obviously a bit thick! Oh casual racism alert!

[NotAllThere]

Yep because the people that gave us Einstein, Edison, Hopper and Oppenheimer are obviously a bit thick! Oh casual racism alert!

What a strange response.

Einstein was German, Swiss and American. He became American at the age of 61. After Germany and Switzerland had given us his best work.
Who said they're thick? Or even that Americans are - very odd interpretation there.
The US has a very specific culture and heritage that has led them to where they are now. I.e. they're where they are now because they're American.

[DealorNoDeal]

I watch a lot of crime reality programmes and policing in America is so different to here.

If someone gets murdered here, especially with a firearm, it's a big deal. There'll be an SIO and a team of dozens of detectives investigating it. In parts of America, it's so common place that they'll often only put a couple of detectives on it. And if it isn't solved quickly, it gets parked unless any new leads come in.

Detectives there will routinely visit homes of suspects they know have got a gun. That would never happen here; there'd be a full risk assessment and a tactical firearms squad would be sent in.

Since the 1980s, there have been over 200,000 unsolved homicides in the US.

It's a dangerous place to be a police officer and it's no wonder a lot of suspects end up getting injured or killed.

[vetran]

What a strange response.

Einstein was German, Swiss and American. He became American at the age of 61. After Germany and Switzerland had given us his best work.
Who said they're thick? Or even that Americans are - very odd interpretation there.
The US has a very specific culture and heritage that has led them to where they are now. I.e. they're where they are now because they're American.

should they eat rice & peas?