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    #51
    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    should they eat rice & peas?
    Cheesy Peas!

    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #52
      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
      Absolutely. US society is really screwed up when it comes to race relations. And their police seem to have less accountability than in more civilised countries - checkout qualified immunity and the issues with that.
      A constable must have qualified immunity, up to a point. Otherwise legally, they would almost be prevented from detaining anyone or laying a finger on them.

      A citizen (in the UK), which is what a constable would be without any extra powers, can make an arrest only if:

      * at the time of the arrest they believe no constable is on hand to make the arrest
      * They believe the perp has committed a crime
      * The perp has indeed committed the crime
      * The crime is indictable, i.e. serious enough to warrant at least two years in jail (this being intended to correspond to what used to be called a felony, as opposed to a misdemeanor)

      See https://www.westminstersecurity.co.u...arrest-uk-law/

      Coppers can arrest under more liberal conditions, such as on suspicion that a crime is about to be committed, even if it hasn't been already.
      Last edited by OwlHoot; 23 April 2021, 20:29.
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        #53
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post

        A constable must have qualified immunity, up to a point. Otherwise legally, they would almost be prevented from detaining anyone or laying a finger on them.

        A citizen (in the UK) can make an arrest only if:

        * They believe the perp has committed a crime
        * The perp has indeed committed the crime
        * The crime is serious enough to warrant at least two years in jail (this being intended to correspond to what used to be called a felony, as opposed to a misdemeanor)

        Coppers can arrest under more liberal conditions, such as on suspicion that a crime is about to be committed, even if it hasn't been already.
        I think the issue in this US is really egregious behaviour can result in no penalty. Just read the cases of some of the people who've ended up on death row who were eventually exonerated (as ever, generally poor people who can't afford lawyers).
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #54
          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

          I think the issue in this US is really egregious behaviour can result in no penalty. Just read the cases of some of the people who've ended up on death row who were eventually exonerated (as ever, generally poor people who can't afford lawyers).
          The problem is the opponents tend to want to remove all sense and make the Police powerless rather than making them behave. Their idea is that criminals are just misunderstood and a result of poverty. Completely gaga.

          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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