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Is it because I isn't black enough?

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    Is it because I isn't black enough?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lack-real.html

    BBC diversity chief says Idris Elba's TV detective Luther 'isn't black enough to be real' because 'he doesn't have any black friends and doesn't eat any Caribbean food'
    • Miranda Wayland said the hit BBC crime drama was only superficially diverse
    • Bosses are now looking to portray minority groups in a more convincing way
    • BBC will spend £100m of content budget on diverse programming over 3 years
    seriously?
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    #2
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Makes sense to me. What they basically have is a 'white' character played by a black man. If you're going to create a black character then surely he/she needs to be culturally correct too?

    Try not to get too triggered though, eh?
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      #3
      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
      What they basically have is a 'white' character played by a black man. If you're going to create a black character then surely he/she needs to be culturally correct too?
      I'm not entirely convinced that dark skin is a culture.

      The script was written without any particular colour skin in mind, according to the author. They cast someone with dark skin because they're not racist. Only, according to Wayland, they are racist because they didn't write a black character, who likes Caribbean food and has friends of the same colour.

      If they'd cast a half English, one quarter Vietnamese, one quarter Huong Chinese, would we expect that culture? And exactly how are they supposed to behave? Mmm... beginning to sound like cultural stereotypes which is of course also racist.

      Personally, I'm in favour of colour blindness.
      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        #4
        Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
        I'm not entirely convinced that dark skin is a culture.

        The script was written without any particular colour skin in mind, according to the author. They cast someone with dark skin because they're not racist. Only, according to Wayland, they are racist because they didn't write a black character, who likes Caribbean food and has friends of the same colour.

        If they'd cast a half English, one quarter Vietnamese, one quarter Huong Chinese, would we expect that culture? And exactly how are they supposed to behave? Mmm... beginning to sound like cultural stereotypes which is of course also racist.

        Personally, I'm in favour of colour blindness.
        I have no problem with colour blindness, but don't you find it 'funny' (not of the ha ha type) that the cultural norm used is that of a white Brit and not of a Brit from a different heritage.

        Skin colour is not cultural, you're right, but West Indian heritage would certainly be - rice and peas, or spicy chicken, for example would be on the menu at least once a week, if my mates down in the smoke are anything to judge by (and who doesn't like rice and peas?!?)
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          #5
          I'm also concerned the characters are emitting too much carbon. I didn't see any of them offsetting or looking to join XR?
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            #6
            Life was so much easier in the 80s.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Whorty View Post
              ...but West Indian heritage would certainly be - rice and peas, or spicy chicken, for example would be on the menu at least once a week, if my mates down in the smoke are anything to judge by (and who doesn't like rice and peas?!?)
              Odd. Me and my West Indian friend are always going out for a curry. (in normal times). And his wife cooks the most amazing Mexican food.

              Btw. I love rice and peas. I never knew it it was Carribean.

              The point that Wayland should be making - and is failing to do so - is that Luther <> cultural diversity. But also recognise that Idris Elba being cast in that role is a good thing for diversity.

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              Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                #8
                The rules change daily, how do you even keep up, it's no wonder they are constantly swallowing their own, they can't even keep up.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Whorty View Post

                  Makes sense to me. What they basically have is a 'white' character played by a black man. If you're going to create a black character then surely he/she needs to be culturally correct too?

                  Try not to get too triggered though, eh?
                  Am I understanding correctly, you think the character should have played up to racial stereotypes, which are held by you (I assume a white man)?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    Must sound sexist, but I've noticed that the sanctimonious attention seekers who raise these ridiculous vexatious criticisms are nearly always women

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