Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine batch halted after blood clots

[saptastic]

What is actually ironic is that you believe the Covid fatalities to be overstated due to the reporting criteria you mention, but in fact the number of deaths where Covid is mentioned on the death certificate is nearly 20% higher than the official tally (just over 150k), because it includes people who's positive test occurred more than 28 days before they died.

I never said it was overstated. Just fyi.

[Whorty]

Maybe we're not being told the full facts, but based on what has been released so far from WHO etc this seems bonkers. Even halting the roll out for a week or two will cause more deaths and severe illnesses than the perceived risk of side effects. It does feel political at the moment.

[SueEllen]

Maybe we're not being told the full facts, but based on what has been released so far from WHO etc this seems bonkers. Even halting the roll out for a week or two will cause more deaths and severe illnesses than the perceived risk of side effects. It does feel political at the moment.

There is vaccine hesitancy in Germany, France, Italy etc ,where due to their politicians disparaging remarks, their populations don't want the Oxford/AZ vaccine.

Looking at the figures yesterday Germany, France, Italy etc have all only used up to a third of their Oxford/AZ vaccine stocks. In short their populations are refusing to take the Oxford/AZ vaccine so the politicians are covering their behinds by claiming it causes blood clots.

[AtW]

Politicians in EU got vested interest to blame specific vaccine hesitancy as the reason for vaccination failure.

They fooked up with Biontec/Pfizer orders too, but not to worry - Sputnik is to the rescue, would not be surprised if it's a stolen formulae from Oxfrod vaccine...

[d000hg]

There is vaccine hesitancy in Germany, France, Italy etc ,where due to their politicians disparaging remarks, their populations don't want the Oxford/AZ vaccine.

Looking at the figures yesterday Germany, France, Italy etc have all only used up to a third of their Oxford/AZ vaccine stocks. In short their populations are refusing to take the Oxford/AZ vaccine so the politicians are covering their behinds by claiming it causes blood clots.

Meanwhile there is a real chance Italy, France and a few others will catch up with UK's death figure due to slow vaccine rollout.

[SueEllen]

Meanwhile there is a real chance Italy, France and a few others will catch up with UK's death figure due to slow vaccine rollout.

They will blame it on the UK even though they have stocks in.

[BlasterBates]

Meanwhile there is a real chance Italy, France and a few others will catch up with UK's death figure due to slow vaccine rollout.

The main bottle neck in distributing vaccines in the EU is lack of vaccine, so if they pause for a few days it makes no difference as the vaccine doesn't go off, so they'll simply increase the number of vaccinations when it's been cleared.

[BlasterBates]

They will blame it on the UK even though they have stocks in.

They don't have the stocks as Astra Zeneca are refusing to export from the UK even though the EU is exporting Pfizer vaccine to the UK.

[Gibbon]

On a survey of one. I had the AZ jab a few weeks ago and since then had two full blood tests. All the clotting type tests such as INR and platelets showed no movement even within the normal range.

[Lance]

The main bottle neck in distributing vaccines in the EU is lack of vaccine, so if they pause for a few days it makes no difference as the vaccine doesn't go off, so they'll simply increase the number of vaccinations when it's been cleared.

call me cynical, but that is what I think many are doing. The medical evidence of a problem is negligible. You are at far greater risk of a blood clot by taking the contraceptive pill but that's not being banned.

Whereas a delay, that's 'the fault of the UK/AZ' followed by a surge in vaccinations, is politically expedient, and a valid public health strategy.