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    Crafty scam - A whole fake forum!

    I was searching for an obscure ebook, when as luck would have it (so I thought) I came across a forum thread that discussed that very book!

    caffeine
    Jack
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    Join Date: Aug 2014, Posts: 48

    #1
    January 28, 2021 02:00 PM
    Hey there! Anglo-Norman antiquities considered : in a tour through part of Normandy, by Doctor Ducarel, 1767. Illustrated with twenty-seven copper-plates. searched all the web couldn't find anywhere.

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    yurikuzn
    Harry
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    #2
    January 28, 2021 02:34 PM
    Here is the link, was searching for this myself for a long time, found only on this fileshare.

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    caffeine
    Jack
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    Join Date: Aug 2014, Posts: 48

    #3
    January 28, 2021 02:39 PM
    But it requires CC.

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    Makov
    Oscar
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    #4
    January 29, 2021 11:58 AM
    Yes, just fill it in, its trusted site.

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    yurikuzn
    Jack
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    #5
    January 29, 2021 01:25 PM
    Thanks, the CC is just to make sure you aren't a bot.

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    Makov
    Sofia
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    #6
    January 30, 2021 08:24 PM
    Thanks guys, looked for this long time too.

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    Makov
    William
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    #7
    January 30, 2021 10:46 PM
    Oh man, that's great, thank, solid website, entered CC and just got what I needed.

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    yurikuzn
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    #8
    January 30, 2021 11:19 AM

    Topic is closed.
    It was a really slick looking forum page. But look at those datetimes - I was searching today, 2021-01-31, and the above "discussion" has a regular sequence of datetimes starting only a couple of days ago! What are the chances two or three people would all be keenly interested in some old book like the one I was looking for and would all reply within a day or two?

    So someone has created a whole fake bulletin board discussion generator to lure unsuspecting ebook searchers to hand out their credit card details.

    (Clicking on the user names and similar popped up a message saying "site under maintenance".)

    Also, I just noticed the datetime the Admin closed the thread precedes that of the previous comment (unless I made mistake copying and pasting the posts - Can't be bothered to check now.)
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    #2
    Hey there! Anglo-Norman antiquities considered : in a tour through part of Normandy, by Doctor Ducarel, 1767. Illustrated with twenty-seven copper-plate
    Probably lots of fake sites selling popular stuff but not sure I understand how a bot would come up with that header post or why it would be worth it. Your interest must be one in millions.
    Last edited by xoggoth; 31 January 2021, 10:13.
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      #3
      Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
      Probably lots of fake sites selling popular stuff but not sure I understand how a bot would come up with that header post or why it would be worth it. Your interest must be one in millions.
      Yeah. Conspiracy or co-incidence. I'd say co-incidence.

      Try looking for Arse Ticklers and Faggots Fan Club by AtW and see if the same thing happens.
      What happens in General, stays in General.
      You know what they say about assumptions!

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        #4
        It's not a coincidence, I think they just make a generic page for every single book with a query parameter ?bookname=abc

        They probably then have a master page with every single ISBN/book from some pilfered database of every book in existence.

        Then they just get google to index their site, google thinks oh this is a site with a list of every book ever made, indexes a link to page.html?bookname=python for dummies etc. etc.

        You click the link on google, it generates a fake page based on the query parameter

        et voila

        That is my guess, unless they have some way of taking your google search query and feeding it in, which is also a possibility - sometimes you google something like 'specific model 33boobs plasma television' and you get an advert in the side bar like 'ebay buy and sell specific model 33boobs plasma television and many others items today!' and it links to an ebay search for what you typed in.

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          #5
          Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post

          Try looking for Arse Ticklers and Faggots Fan Club by AtW and see if the same thing happens.
          Tried that, and this came up:

          YouTube - Lock Stock - Arse Tickler's Faggots Fan Club

          The only other result was a dodgy looking site called "Contractor UK". I'd steer well clear!
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            #6
            It's not a coincidence, I think they just make a generic page for every single book with a query parameter ?bookname=abc
            You're probably right. "Anglo-Norman Antiquities considered in a tour through part of Normandy, by Doctor Ducarel" is the exact title, and it's on Amazon. Scouring the titles from the books section in Amazon and adding very generic comments probably isn't that hard.
            Last edited by xoggoth; 31 January 2021, 10:46.
            bloggoth

            If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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              #7
              I only use abebooks for this kind of thing, but this is why I use PayPal for most of my purchases, I just don’t trust small e-commerce companies.
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #8
                Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

                Probably right that 1st sentence, "Anglo-Norman Antiquities considered in a tour through part of Normandy, by Doctor Ducarel" is the exact title, and it's on Amazon.
                FWIW, I found a free ebook copy in the end, without any "help" from Russian hackers who require credit card details!

                Anglo-Norman antiquities considered, in a tour through part ... - Full View | HathiTrust Digital Library | HathiTrust Digital Library
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by FIERCE TANK BATTLE View Post
                  It's not a coincidence, I think they just make a generic page for every single book with a query parameter ?bookname=abc

                  They probably then have a master page with every single ISBN/book from some pilfered database of every book in existence.

                  Then they just get google to index their site, google thinks oh this is a site with a list of every book ever made, indexes a link to page.html?bookname=python for dummies etc. etc.

                  You click the link on google, it generates a fake page based on the query parameter

                  et voila

                  That is my guess, unless they have some way of taking your google search query and feeding it in, which is also a possibility - sometimes you google something like 'specific model 33boobs plasma television' and you get an advert in the side bar like 'ebay buy and sell specific model 33boobs plasma television and many others items today!' and it links to an ebay search for what you typed in.
                  I'm sure you're right, and they wouldn't even have to pinch a database because there are free online databases already, such as WorldCat.org: The World's Largest Library Catalog.

                  But from this example, I think their code must have checked Amazon (as xoggoth suggested) because I think that's the only site I found where the author is bizarrely referred to as "Doctor" Ducarel (which I never used in my Google search).
                  Last edited by OwlHoot; 31 January 2021, 11:01.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                    Yeah. Conspiracy or co-incidence. I'd say co-incidence.

                    Try looking for Arse Ticklers and Faggots Fan Club by AtW and see if the same thing happens.

                    is that the sequel to "Squirrels subduing and strapping" them?
                    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

                    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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