Should Mark Field be charged with assault?

[meridian]

I imagine she got treated in exactly the same way a bloke would have in that situation so the equality lot should be pleased at least.

Not true. See above.

[darmstadt]

If it was a private event then obviously the security was about as good as a BBC vetting procedure for Question Time. I also can't see anywhere in the MP's list of interests where Mark Field is a licensed bouncer....

Right wingers just kill people they disagree with:

Suspect in German politician's murder 'has links to far right' | World news | The Guardian

Murder of Jo Cox - Wikipedia

Charlottesville car attack - Wikipedia

[SimonMac]

Was put very succinctly on R4 this morning:

• If it was a police officer making the same actions no one would bat an eyelid
• If it was a female MP doing the same no one would bat an eyelid

Its a non story where it only becomes a story be faux offence

[vwdan]

I think he should be. I think he's got a potentially reasonable defense, but I personally think this is a case which should go to court.

[northernladuk]

I think he should be. I think he's got a potentially reasonable defense, but I personally think this is a case which should go to court.

For what exactly?

[fullyautomatix]

Did what any policeman should have done if present. We've gone to milkshakes in political protests, it really only is a matter of time before it's acid, especially since the suggestion has been put out there and publicised and the person who put it out has suffered no consequences.

These people think they can do what they do with impunity, and they keep escalating.

My biggest problem with what he did is apologising afterwards.

What nonsense. I bet you treat your wife like that when she refuses to get in bed.

[vetran]

If it was a private event then obviously the security was about as good as a BBC vetting procedure for Question Time. I also can't see anywhere in the MP's list of interests where Mark Field is a licensed bouncer....

Right wingers just kill people they disagree with:

Suspect in German politician's murder 'has links to far right' | World news | The Guardian

Murder of Jo Cox - Wikipedia

Charlottesville car attack - Wikipedia

totally unlike left wingers who are just cuddly

Left-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

Mass killings under communist regimes - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita...hment_in_China

[vwdan]

Was put very succinctly on R4 this morning:

• If it was a police officer making the same actions no one would bat an eyelid
• If it was a female MP doing the same no one would bat an eyelid

Its a non story where it only becomes a story be faux offence

I genuinely disagree. I don't think a well trained Police officer would have approached that with so much force at that point - it didn't look proportional to me, and I don't think he was genuinely in fear of being attacked/assaulted etc. Trespass alone isn't generally considered to be criminal, so despite what your average bouncer may think is okay, your right to use force is hugely curtailed.

As to your second point, well, sexism still reigns - but that doesn't make THIS case okay.

It's all well and good people saying "What if she was a bloke" etc, but she wasn't. Anybody who claims they feel the same amount of intimidation between a 6'6 rugby player vs a petite woman (I'm not saying she was) is lying. I'm also not saying you can't be hurt by a woman, but the case should be taken on its merits - not hypotheticals. It wasn't a huge rugby player storming in and it wasn't a 12 year old girl

[northernladuk]

Lol at all the tough guys who say that she deserves it, but everyone stood back when an angry man invaded Esther McVey’s meeting.

Seems like the tough guys only like manhandling when it’s a small woman on the receiving end.

They'll manhandle anything they are capable of. Looking how instinctively reacted I'd be willing to bet he didn't consider who or what it was in this case.

But.. I don't think 'because she's a woman' is a valid defense. If you aren't big enough or strong enough to enter a situation that could end in a fracas then you don't do it. Plenty of blokes could have been bowled over as easily as that and plenty of women would have flattened him. It's not about gender.

[vetran]

Lol at all the tough guys who say that she deserves it, but everyone stood back when an angry man invaded Esther McVey’s meeting.

Seems like the tough guys only like manhandling when it’s a small woman on the receiving end.

She didn't 'deserve it' she made it happen because of her actions, in hindsight a successful security presence would have been better.