Start of attack on right of substitution

[NotAllThere]

Article in the Sunday Times concerning Deliveroo contracts. They explicitly have a right of substitution in their contracts.

"The Central Arbitration Committee, which oversees the UK’s labour laws, ruled in 2017 that only the right to substitution prevented Deliveroo riders from qualifying for the right to unionise, which is associated with being an employee. But it questioned the premise of the substitution process.

“Why would Deliveroo spend so much time, money and energy selecting and training riders, when the riders could then subcontract the right to use the app willy-nilly?” it wrote in its decision in November 2017."

[xoggoth]

Maybe we need a contractors' union. We could go on strike every few months and get paid an amount completely disproportionate to our skills like tube drivers.

[vetran]

Maybe we need a contractors' union. We could go on strike every few months and get paid an amount completely disproportionate to our skills like tube drivers.

Bring on the Grey(matter) jackets.

[Mordac]

Article in the Sunday Times concerning Deliveroo contracts. They explicitly have a right of substitution in their contracts.

"The Central Arbitration Committee, which oversees the UK’s labour laws, ruled in 2017 that only the right to substitution prevented Deliveroo riders from qualifying for the right to unionise, which is associated with being an employee. But it questioned the premise of the substitution process.

“Why would Deliveroo spend so much time, money and energy selecting and training riders, when the riders could then subcontract the right to use the app willy-nilly?” it wrote in its decision in November 2017."

I'm guessing that, (as with any RoS in my contracts) their RoS comes with caveats concerning Quals, experience and suitability. E.g. only another qualified Deliveroo rider would be accepted as a sub.
As we have found in the IR35 tribunals, a RoS with strict caveats is not always accepted as being valid.

[vetran]

apparently not. they will take anyone

Access Denied

Delivery jobs for two gig economy giants are being traded to alleged illegal immigrants in a black market, a Sunday Times investigation has revealed.
Workers at Deliveroo and Uber Eats who have passed vetting checks are offering up their jobs online. Whistleblowers claim that migrants who are in Britain illegally are renting these jobs without facing criminal record, insurance, right-to-work or passport checks.

[AtW]

Easily solved by having ‘Deliveroo Training Inc’ - only ‘self-employed’ who got their certificate are acceptable as substitutes and cetificate can involve paying money for the training...

[NotAllThere]

They're supposed to ensure that the substitutes have done the same training they have and have gone through the same checks. But they don't always do that...

[Mordac]

So "I'm guessing" a big fat wrong, then. Strange, I'm usually right about absolutely everything...

[Old Greg]

So "I'm guessing" a big fat wrong, then. Strange, I'm usually right about absolutely everything...

The 'safe space' rules of General prevent me from demolishing that claim.

[TestMangler]

Maybe we need a contractors' union. We could go on strike every few months and get paid an amount completely disproportionate to our skills like tube drivers.

Contractors Union of New Technology Specialists