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Previously on "Start of attack on right of substitution"

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Did you miss my post-ironic intent?
    A post-ironic-post?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Oh that's what it was...
    You weren't expected to get it.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Did you miss my post-ironic intent?
    Oh that's what it was...

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    No need, everyone else spotted my subtle use of irony.
    Did you miss my post-ironic intent?

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    The 'safe space' rules of General prevent me from demolishing that claim.
    No need, everyone else spotted my subtle use of irony.

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  • TestMangler
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    It can't be called out. That spells out a very rude acronym!
    Oh dear, I never noticed........

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
    Contractors Union of New Technology Specialists
    It can't be called that. That spells out a very rude acronym!
    Last edited by northernladuk; 7 January 2019, 10:42.

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  • TestMangler
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Maybe we need a contractors' union. We could go on strike every few months and get paid an amount completely disproportionate to our skills like tube drivers.
    Contractors Union of New Technology Specialists

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    So "I'm guessing" a big fat wrong, then. Strange, I'm usually right about absolutely everything...

    The 'safe space' rules of General prevent me from demolishing that claim.

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  • Mordac
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    So "I'm guessing" a big fat wrong, then. Strange, I'm usually right about absolutely everything...

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  • NotAllThere
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    They're supposed to ensure that the substitutes have done the same training they have and have gone through the same checks. But they don't always do that...

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  • AtW
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    Easily solved by having ‘Deliveroo Training Inc’ - only ‘self-employed’ who got their certificate are acceptable as substitutes and cetificate can involve paying money for the training...

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  • vetran
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    apparently not. they will take anyone

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    Delivery jobs for two gig economy giants are being traded to alleged illegal immigrants in a black market, a Sunday Times investigation has revealed.
    Workers at Deliveroo and Uber Eats who have passed vetting checks are offering up their jobs online. Whistleblowers claim that migrants who are in Britain illegally are renting these jobs without facing criminal record, insurance, right-to-work or passport checks.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Article in the Sunday Times concerning Deliveroo contracts. They explicitly have a right of substitution in their contracts.

    "The Central Arbitration Committee, which oversees the UK’s labour laws, ruled in 2017 that only the right to substitution prevented Deliveroo riders from qualifying for the right to unionise, which is associated with being an employee. But it questioned the premise of the substitution process.

    “Why would Deliveroo spend so much time, money and energy selecting and training riders, when the riders could then subcontract the right to use the app willy-nilly?” it wrote in its decision in November 2017."
    I'm guessing that, (as with any RoS in my contracts) their RoS comes with caveats concerning Quals, experience and suitability. E.g. only another qualified Deliveroo rider would be accepted as a sub.
    As we have found in the IR35 tribunals, a RoS with strict caveats is not always accepted as being valid.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Maybe we need a contractors' union. We could go on strike every few months and get paid an amount completely disproportionate to our skills like tube drivers.

    Bring on the Grey(matter) jackets.

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