More sick violence...

[TheGreenBastard]

I think one of these is useful -

"But what about forks..." - SueEllen

[vetran]

You mean like Christianity tried to at one point?

Remember "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Hey I'm pretty clear on my beliefs about Christianity and most organised religions.

Nice People (mainly) shame about the Credo.

Pretty much the same for Islam.

[northernladyuk]

1) No, certain aspects need to be adhered too however, e.g. Muhammad being the best and last prophet.
2) Strawman...
3) Conservatism in most forms implies control - however I do believe Islam can be discussed in isolation without resorting to "whataboutisms"

You're funny.

[NotAllThere]

It comprises of a legal and social system too, unlike Christianity (mostly), which is why the ideologies are not directly comparable (unless you're a dunce).

It's disingenuous to suggest it doesn't want to "take over the world" when much of it explicitly aspires that goal.

In Christianity, there's Dominion Theology, which is exactly about Christians taking over the world.

[northernladyuk]

In Christianity, there's Dominion Theology, which is exactly about Christians taking over the world.

Don't confuse him.

[TheGreenBastard]

In Christianity, there's Dominion Theology, which is exactly about Christians taking over the world.

Yet more whataboutism - Islam can be discussed on its own merits exclusive of Christianity. You're talking to an atheist; what response are you looking to incite? "Oh, in that case sex slaves as described in Islam are OK!" (Extreme example used to stress the argument).

Also, if you want to discuss Dominion Theology - that arose in the 1970s. Sharia et al has been with Islam from Gabriel's final narration to Muhammad. If you're a Muslim you actually believe Sharia has existed in perfect form forever

[TheGreenBastard]

Don't confuse him.

More whataboutism - the level of intellect on display here is shocking.

Usual suspects back patting each other though I see.

[Gibbon]

In Christianity, there's Dominion Theology, which is exactly about Christians taking over the world.

That's very recent fruitcake theology.

There is a fundamental historic chasm between the origins of Christianity and Islam.

Christ wrote nothing that has come down to us, if he did write anything. He didn't start a codified religion, his followers inspired by his example of love and peace did that. Later people then used it to purse political aims, but at it's beginning for 300 years it was a peaceful non-political religion that especially looked after the poor and imprisoned.

Mohammed wrote the Koran and used it to unite the Arab tribes which he then led in conquest and slaughter of the middle east and north Africa. Pope Benedict was right a few years ago when he alluded to Islam been of the sword.

[WTFH]

We can continue a debate on the objective peacefulness of Islam if you wish to be enlightened.

Yes, please enlighten me, what are the five pillars of Islam? Can you also enlighten me as to whether you believe there to be 5 or 7.

Apart from a small group of Muslims, why is it that the most dogmatic of Muslim haters insist on preaching that there are 7?

[TheGreenBastard]

Yes, please enlighten me, what are the five pillars of Islam? Can you also enlighten me as to whether you believe there to be 5 or 7.

Apart from a small group of Muslims, why is it that the most dogmatic of Muslim haters insist on preaching that there are 7?

Just to pause your idiotic narrative for a moment it's "Islam haters".

I have friends and peers that describe themselves as Muslim, I don't hate them.

The number of pillars depends on the sect.

Still waiting on evidence of hate filled bile AKA "you don't agree with my fragile world view".