More sick violence...

[vetran]

You think the kids should have been killed as well? That happens. Fact is that some people love "honour" (for which read "themselves") more than they love their children. Conversion from Islam is, strictly, punishable by death. I know a young man who has sought asylum here in Switzerland. He converted in Pakistan, and then was beaten, stabbed and left for dead. You can see the scars on his stomach. The judge ruled that Pakistan is a safe country, and he can simply disappear into the Christian community there. Unfortunately, a) he can't do that, as his Pakistani ID card is marked "Muslim", and cannot be changed and b) it's manifestly not safe for Christians, especially converts from Islam. He is being returned to Pakistan in one month. If he's murdered, we'll send reports of his death to the judge.

You are free to express your opinion here. And we are free to express our opinion of your opinion.
And cats. Don't forget cats.

that's terrible.

Good job Islam doesn't want to rule the world.

[northernladyuk]

That's ridiculous!

And tragic.

[SueEllen]

You are free to express your opinion here. And we are free to express our opinion of your opinion.

No he isn't you will just ban him for being repeatedly offensive.

And cats. Don't forget cats.

Like newsround stories about cats are always welcome

Though this one is sad linky

[SueEllen]

Good job Islam doesn't want to rule the world.

You mean like Christianity tried to at one point?

Remember "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[TheGreenBastard]

You mean like Christianity tried to at one point?

Remember "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Lame beyond belief.

[northernladyuk]

that's terrible.

Good job Islam doesn't want to rule the world.

Islam is a religion or belief system. As such it doesn't 'want' to do anything. It has no consciousness. Do you mean that some Muslims want the world to be Muslim?

[TheGreenBastard]

Islam is a religion or belief system. As such it doesn't 'want' to do anything. It has no consciousness. Do you mean that some Muslims want the world to be Muslim?

It comprises of a legal and social system too, unlike Christianity (mostly), which is why the ideologies are not directly comparable (unless you're a dunce).

It's disingenuous to suggest it doesn't want to "take over the world" when much of it explicitly aspires that goal.

[northernladyuk]

It comprises of a legal and social system too, unlike Christianity (mostly), which is why the ideologies are not directly comparable (unless you're a dunce).

It's disingenuous to suggest it doesn't want to "take over the world" when much of it explicitly aspires that goal.

There are lots of different types of Muslims. Do you think all Sufis want to "take over the world"?

[TheGreenBastard]

There are lots of different types of Muslims. Do you think all Sufis want to "take over the world"?

Muslims != Islam.

I explained how Islam wants to take over the world. Individual Muslims might not share that aspiration, but their ideology strictly does.

Let's deal with the majority of Islamic sects - not the exception to the rule. Sufis have a strong belief in Sharia, the infallible law of God, so I'm not even sure the strawman argument helps your case.

[northernladyuk]

Muslims != Islam.

I explained how Islam wants to take over the world. Individual Muslims might not share that aspiration, but their ideology strictly does.

Let's deal with the majority of Islamic sects - not the exception to the rule. Sufis have a strong belief in Sharia, the infallible law of God, so I'm not even sure the strawman argument helps your case.

If you are not talking about Muslims, can you explain how an ideology 'wants' to do anything, and how that single ideology can be defined?