The ever loving EU again

[d000hg]

So:

1)We won't guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, and the EU won't guarantee UK nationals' status in the EU - but this is an example of why the EU is bad?

2)We should leave the EU to gain sovereignty and take control over our own national interests. The EU is allowing each member state to take control of its own national interests and this is an example of why the EU is bad?

You're wearing the double-strength blinkers today.

[shaunbhoy]

So:

1)We won't guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, and the EU won't guarantee UK nationals' status in the EU - but this is an example of why the EU is bad?

We WILL guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, but the EU WON'T commit to a reciprocal arrangement.

HTH BIDI

[vetran]

We WILL guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, but the EU WON'T commit to a reciprocal arrangement.

HTH BIDI

too complicated for your average Bremainer.

[NigelJK]

The perfect summation of the Bremainer position, even the tooltip fits

HTH

[Chuck]

Jeez, why is this so difficult?

The UK government has stated, on numerous occasions, an unequivocal desire to protect the status of EU nationals living in the UK, provided that the EU does the same for UK nationals living in the EU.

The EU has said that they will not discuss this until A50 is invoked.

If the UK gives the guarantee, without a reciprocal agreement from the EU, UK nationals are at risk of losing their status because some poxy county council in Belgium won't play ball. Look at what happened with TTIP if you don't believe something like this could happen.

[VectraMan]

We WILL guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, but the EU WON'T commit to a reciprocal arrangement.

From one of your own newspapers no less:

Brexit news – MPs vote AGAINST protecting EU nationals' rights | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

[Mordac]

So:

1)We won't guarantee EU nationals' status in the UK, and the EU won't guarantee UK nationals' status in the EU - but this is an example of why the EU is bad?

2)We should leave the EU to gain sovereignty and take control over our own national interests. The EU is allowing each member state to take control of its own national interests and this is an example of why the EU is bad?

You're wearing the double-strength blinkers today.

Only when it suits the EU to do so. That the EU ever had that power in the first place is precisely why the EU is "bad" (I'd use post-watershed language but the Mods are lurking.)

[VectraMan]

The UK government has stated, on numerous occasions, an unequivocal desire to protect the status of EU nationals living in the UK, provided that the EU does the same for UK nationals living in the EU.

Why is it a "provided"? The two don't have to be connected; the UK can do what it wants to do. To do what it's doing is using people, many of whom have been here and paid taxes here for decades, as bargaining chips.

[BlasterBates]

Jeez, why is this so difficult?

The UK government has stated, on numerous occasions, an unequivocal desire to protect the status of EU nationals living in the UK, provided that the EU does the same for UK nationals living in the EU.

The EU has said that they will not discuss this until A50 is invoked.

If the UK gives the guarantee, without a reciprocal agreement from the EU, UK nationals are at risk of losing their status because some poxy county council in Belgium won't play ball. Look at what happened with TTIP if you don't believe something like this could happen.

The EU have been requesting the UK to invoke article 50 for the last 7 months, one line on a piece of paper would suffice, and you know what, the UK government can't manage it, how pathetic. If they had all these problems could have been resolved. A country that having promised to resign the day after the referendum and then "fannies" around for 7 months is hardly likely to be fit to put together a trade deal.

[vetran]

The EU have been requesting the UK to invoke article 50 for the last 7 months, one line on a piece of paper would suffice, and you know what, the UK government can't manage it, how pathetic. If they had all these problems could have been resolved. A country that having promised to resign the day after the referendum and then "fannies" around for 7 months is hardly likely to be fit to put together a trade deal.

actually we only know one line will do it because it went to court and the Judges specified it would that was in December. Your position looks ridiculous.