How the USA gets rid of Trump

[SueEllen]

Any liberals out there want to answer this?

Didn't realise you were a supporter of North Korea and other dictatorships.

If you are not you can answer this question yourself as liberalism is a spectrum and evolves with time.

[shaunbhoy]

Maybe people get the Governments they deserve.

They certainly do. And it is testament to the quality of those that they have ended up with Trump.

[DodgyAgent]

The best-qualified, regardless of other factors, obvs. And 'positive discrimination' is largely a myth.

You're missing the point, it is highly unlikely that there are no well-qualified candidates for the cabinet posts in women or the minorities. By excluding them, and selecting people with a history of discriminatory (to put it mildly) language and behaviour, Trump has denied the electorate the service of the 'best qualified' people and put down a marker that could be interpreted as:- minorities can kiss my white *ss.

Maybe people get the Governments they deserve.

I am not missing your point. My point is that the sanctity of liberal views are not nor should be beyond challenge. Where liberals adopt totems they can expect to be challenged. They have no divine right to impose their clumsy dogma on everyone else. Worthy soundbites these tenets of liberalism may be but often that is all they are - soundbites. Beneath those soundbites are complex arguments and interpretations some of which you and your ilk might not like and prefer to drown out rather than debate them - you have inadvertently listed them whilst trying to sneer at Breitbart . So when you pin your virtuous selves to these masts of moral integrity in the future you might like to think again - people are not fooled by your self righteous arrogance.
If you want to do yourselves a favour stop treating everyone as idiots and take a long hard look at your arguments and think them through.

[DodgyAgent]

Didn't realise you were a supporter of North Korea and other dictatorships.

If you are not you can answer this question yourself as liberalism is a spectrum and evolves with time.

It doesn't evolve it regresses as it suppresses challenge. It kills debate by smearing those that challenge it rather than engage in the arguments themselves. So take my question where the necessities of people conflict with liberal attitudes. Liberals like to project their views and kill debate except of course - as I have just illustrated - when they conflict with their own self interest.

[DodgyAgent]

They certainly do. And it is testament to the quality of those that they have ended up with Trump.

sneering again. No understanding whatsoever of the dynamics of anti liberalism

[pjclarke]

My point is that the sanctity of liberal views are not nor should be beyond challenge

You keep coming out with stuff like this, and words like 'tyranny', 'killing or drowning out debate', 'sneering' (translation:I didn't like what you said). Only one thing is missing - a single valid example. From what I've seen of the Right, they're not exactly delicate flowers, in a democratic country, with a free press and a thriving social media, where exactly is this tyranny occuring? Who has been deprived of the right to speak? How do you square this world view with the existence of a site like Breitbart?

The floor is yours.

Context behind the Breitbart headlines I quoted and others can be found here

10 of Breitbart's most incendiary headlines - Nov. 14, 2016

No amount of context can hide the blatent misogyny, bigotry, paranoia and generally intolerant nastiness on display.

[SueEllen]

It doesn't evolve it regresses as it suppresses challenge. It kills debate by smearing those that challenge it rather than engage in the arguments themselves. So take my question where the necessities of people conflict with liberal attitudes. Liberals like to project their views and kill debate except of course - as I have just illustrated - when they conflict with their own self interest.

Since you don't understand what liberalism is there is no point anyone answering you.

The main clue is both the US and UK are liberal democracies. Now think back over the last 40 years over the different politicians who have run these governments. Have they all been the same?

Some people who are left wing e.g. Corbynists like you with your right wing views will argue that a particular president or PM wasn't liberal however philosophies don't work like that.

[Gibbon]

No amount of context can hide the blatent misogyny, bigotry, paranoia and generally intolerant nastiness on display.

Is Breibart Islamist?

[BlasterBates]

Some interesting Breitbart headlines, that caught my eye:

Report: Donald Trump Unloads on Mainstream Media Bigwigs in Trump Tower Meeting - Breitbart

President-elect Donald Trump exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” said one source.

Trump: Farage Would do 'Great Job' As UK Ambassador to USA

I think Trump will be a huge source of entertainment over the next 4 years.

[DodgyAgent]

You keep coming out with stuff like this, and words like 'tyranny', 'killing or drowning out debate', 'sneering' (translation:I didn't like what you said). Only one thing is missing - a single valid example. From what I've seen of the Right, they're not exactly delicate flowers, in a democratic country, with a free press and a thriving social media, where exactly is this tyranny occuring? Who has been deprived of the right to speak? How do you square this world view with the existence of a site like Breitbart?

The floor is yours.

Context behind the Breitbart headlines I quoted and others can be found here

10 of Breitbart's most incendiary headlines - Nov. 14, 2016

No amount of context can hide the blatent misogyny, bigotry, paranoia and generally intolerant nastiness on display.

Do you really want me to run through the list of left wing liberal orthodoxies again?
OK here we go:

Climate change the orthodoxy of the liberal view has been played out ad infinitum here and I am not going to go at it again suffice to say the liberal view being that “the debate is settled,” and anyone that disagrees is denounced as a “climate deniers” The climate change is happening, that it is to the detriment of civilisation, that by controlling human behaviour they can control the climate and 99.9% of climate scientists are paid to support this narrative. They even use the laughably unscientific word "denier" to protect their position. Suffice to say the debate on climate change has been played out to the "nth" degree on here whereby no such consensus has been agreed.

Immigration. The liberal view being that anyone who dares challenge this is racist.

Defining people by their ethnic groups being termed as "racist" by the left wing liberals so rapes by young muslim men are ignored in case of upsetting our (failing) multiculturalism - hence the problems are never debated and white girls continue to be exploited.

We have discussed "diversity" where you have admitted that when push comes to shove and matters become ones of personal interest you ignore diversity when it comes to you but are still happy to impose it on others/

Homosexuality - we must force everyone to accept homosexuality and impose the liberal view on everyone else if that means marrying in a church or baking a cake eveyone else is forced to comply with the liberal view for fear of being branded as homophobic.

Feminism EG men are as much "entitled" to have paternity leave as women when we all know perfectly well most men do not want this and if they do they will bugger off and play golf.

The culture of the victim where anyone can lay claim to being victimised without being challenged (if you are being bullied on twitter then don't go on it.

The self loathing culture whereby we blame our own imperialism or foreign intervention (or not depending on whether it suits the liberal narrative) for problems abroad (instead of being allowed to say that the problems are of your own making so take responsibility)

Whether I agree with Breitbart or not I Thank god for its existence.
Need I go on?