[Merged]US election stuff

[shaunbhoy]

He only believes you are a Scot if you would vote for financial meltdown & Independence.

But do you have to reside there also to qualify? If so that would seem to rule him out!! Why does he even care?

[VectraMan]

Their own fault if they don't vote, no? Surely they can't moan if they didn't tick a box? Not sure what your point is.

Is democracy only about moaning? Shouldn't it be about politicians respecting the will of the people?

The problem is politicians start acting like they have total support when they don't. If only a quarter of the population really wanted a Tory government, then even though the reality of the voting system we use means that they get to be in government maybe they shouldn't claim they have the will of the people behind them.

[Chuck]

2015 - parties with greater than 1 million votes
Conservatives - 11,334,920 votes, 331 seats
Labour - 9,347,326 votes, 232 seats
UKIP - 3,881,129 votes, 1 seat
Libs - 2,415,888 votes, 8 seats
SNP - 1,454,436 votes, 56 seats
Greens - 1,157,613 votes, 1 seat

The problem we'd have is that it's hard to imagine how we'd get a government formed if we had PR unless you cut down on the number of parties that can stand. But that's not exactly fair either.

At a simple level, those numbers show the following...
Total votes cast = 29,591,312
Total seats = 630
Avg votes per seat = 46,970

If seats allocated by average...
Conservative - 11,334,920 / 46,970 = 241
Labour - 199
UKIP - 83
Libs - 51
SNP - 31
Greens - 25

I'm sure there are loads of things wrong with this, but on the face of it, that doesn't look too mad.

[Chuck]

I don't think I could have voted for Trump or Clinton. Neither is fit for office.

However, the more the lefty snowflakes cry and burn flags and whinge, the more I'm thinking that america made the right choice.

[LondonManc]

I don't think I could have voted for Trump or Clinton. Neither is fit for office.

However, the more the lefty snowflakes cry and burn flags and whinge, the more I'm thinking that america made the right choice.

Funny how both sides of the pond, democracy is great until the Liberals don't win, isn't it?

[scooterscot]

54% of "Scots" voted to leave. What would be your criteria for a "Scottish voter" born in Scotland? One parent born in Scotland? One Grandparent born in Scotland? A Scottish surname?

I don't remember getting my ballot on the Scottish referendum?

You want me to tell you how to identify what country you were born in? Really?

[scooterscot]

Exactly. Scooter talks about "democracy", yet tries to justify his points by somehow suggesting that for it to be truly "fair and representative", the only votes that really count should be those of "native" Scots.
You couldn't make it up!

Where did I say that? I only broken down the statistics.

Feck me, has the simple act of 'reading' been lost since my departure?

[scooterscot]

What's most interesting here is the 'working man' coming out in defence of the establishment. Thicker than a thick whale omelette doesn't come close to describing that sort of thinking. In fairness it does not take a leap of the imagination to suggest 'thinking' was part of the process here and an insult to thinkers who actually think. RIP reason.

[BlasterBates]

....and if they don't agree with you, then just simply beat them up.

https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...487#.wi4aply7u

In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground.

[Mordac]

Indeed. And that'll never happen.

It did happen, there was a referendum 5 years ago. It was about 70-30 in favour of "No, you can shove that where the sun don't shine, Cleggy boy".
You were probably too busy to notice at the time.