[Merged]US election stuff

[Flashman]

Total votes for Donald Trump 59,418,103
Total votes for Hilary Clinton 69,424,897

If you're saying democracy was served last night then reason has lost all hope and the human race as we know is doomed.

The US has a very good electoral system - for a large rural country in 1812. The system the US uses is fundamentally broken in the modern day.

Yeah its not the only one

[Old Greg]

No you didn't. Oikophobia is fear of your own home surroundings. From the Greek "oikos" meaning home. Though it has been used to describe people who prefer alien cultures to their own.

You made me splutter soy latte onto my keyboard, you bastard.

[SueEllen]

I hear you.
I'm living in this very strange twilight zone at the moment. I'm normally an avid consumer of news but I can't even turn the radio on right now because it all feels too surreal. This is the country that rejected Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann but Trump is acceptable. And I kept seeing Ann Coulter every time I ventured towards the TV. No. Just no. This has been an incredibly weird year. I read Trump's autobiography about five years ago and found myself laughing out loud sometimes at his complete lack of self awareness. Now this.

Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmenn are part of the establishment so are elites.

[shaunbhoy]

I'm a math person. The math checks out the result did not

How about this?

September 2014 - Yes to Scottish Independence 45%, No to Scottish Independence 55%.

What do you make of THAT result Mr Maths??

[LondonManc]

As far as I know, that's a complete fallacy, She was asked how she would respond if Iran attached Israel with nukes.


What evidence is there of that?



Maybe so. I don't think she's had referenced infrastructure projects in an inauguration speech.



Nope - that's a completely different type of characteristic and not the same kind of personal cowardice in my view

cheated to win the nomination, as revealed in many email leaks
was knowingly funded by the same Middle East backers of ISIS
Let's not forget the ongoing email server case




What case? She's been cleared no? And if you think the Donald is putting merica first - you're deluded

Cleared? They got through 33,000 emails in months then suddenly 250,000 in 8 days? Yeah, whatever.


As for your accusation of Trump being racist, what evidence do you have? His desire to build the wall? One man's racist is another man's patriot. Perhaps we should ask his good friends Rev Al Sharpton and Don King if he's racist. You know, those African American folk who aren't the same race as him???? He was never accused of being a racist until he stood to run against the Democrats and the Liberal elite. Yet I'm deluded.

This one's closed for me, there's been a very toxic element ruling America for too long and I'm pleased that they've finally risen up against it. Fingers crossed the USA will make more friends on an international front without those in charge that shouldn't have been.

[SueEllen]

Ronald Trump is in the Donald Trump party so expect him to help people like himself e.g. he will be no better than an establishment politician.

[darmstadt]

Interesting that since the election his website now has no mention of not allowing Muslims into America. Seems to have taken a leaf out of other right wing parties, in other words say what the voters want to hear and then change your tune once elected.

[SueEllen]

Interesting that since the election his website now has no mention of not allowing Muslims into America. Seems to have taken a leaf out of other right wing parties, in other words say what the voters want to hear and then change your tune once elected.

Why would he stop rich Saudis coming to the US?

[oracleslave]

As for your accusation of Trump being racist, what evidence do you have? His desire to build the wall? One man's racist is another man's patriot. Perhaps we should ask his good friends Rev Al Sharpton and Don King if he's racist.

I didn't have to google too hard to find this, I'm sure there are plenty more examples for you to and research yourself. Given you've stooped to citing Don King as a relevant character reference, what with his fraudulent, thieving past - I can only conclude you're thick as 2 short planks

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

[Old Greg]

I didn't have to google too hard to find this, I'm sure there are plenty more examples for you to and research yourself. Given you've stooped to citing Don King as a relevant character reference, what with his fraudulent, thieving past - I can only conclude you're thick as 2 short planks

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

You're being ridiculous. If Trump is racist, then why did his last minute advert against the financial élite feature three white people?