[Merged]US election stuff

[LondonManc]

I didn't have to google too hard to find this, I'm sure there are plenty more examples for you to and research yourself. Given you've stooped to citing Don King as a relevant character reference, what with his fraudulent, thieving past - I can only conclude you're thick as 2 short planks

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

Ah, Huffington Post, the last bastion of Clinton losers. Enjoy.

[scooterscot]

How about this?

September 2014 - Yes to Scottish Independence 45%, No to Scottish Independence 55%.

What do you make of THAT result Mr Maths??

65% of Scots resident in Scotland voted for independence. 45% of residents in Scotland voted for independence.

The majority of non-Scots in Scotland are English. Obviously English folk wish Scotland to remain in the UK.

Tells me a lot that does. Now shut up and show me the money.

[LondonManc]

Yeah its not the only one

2015 - parties with greater than 1 million votes
Conservatives - 11,334,920 votes, 331 seats
Labour - 9,347,326 votes, 232 seats
UKIP - 3,881,129 votes, 1 seat
Libs - 2,415,888 votes, 8 seats
SNP - 1,454,436 votes, 56 seats
Greens - 1,157,613 votes, 1 seat

The problem we'd have is that it's hard to imagine how we'd get a government formed if we had PR unless you cut down on the number of parties that can stand. But that's not exactly fair either.

[scooterscot]

The problem we'd have is that it's hard to imagine how we'd get a government formed if we had PR unless you cut down on the number of parties that can stand. But that's not exactly fair either.

That's not a problem that's the answer. One party politics no longer work for the country. In fact they do more damage than not. The coalition government we had achieved more for the common man on the street than recent one-party governments.

We need to pull ourselves out of the stone age and move on. The system we have was fine when the population was sparsely distributed taking horse drawn cart from one estate to the other. But this is 2016 now not 1816!! Keeping the system we have now is hop skip and a jump from a dressed up dictatorship. The fact May tried to use royal privilege to push through acts that would affect everyone just shows how dangerous our unelected leaders are.

[tomtomagain]

65% of Scots resident in Scotland voted for independence. 45% of residents in Scotland voted for independence.

The majority of non-Scots in Scotland are English. Obviously English folk wish Scotland to remain in the UK.

Tells me a lot that does. Now shut up and show me the money.

What does it tell you? That uncontrolled migration can fundamentally alter the future of a country against the wishes of the people who consider themselves "native"?

[Old Greg]

What does it tell you? That uncontrolled migration can fundamentally alter the future of a country against the wishes of the people who consider themselves "native"?

Tell that to the Native Americans.

[VectraMan]

2015 - parties with greater than 1 million votes
Conservatives - 11,334,920 votes, 331 seats
Labour - 9,347,326 votes, 232 seats
UKIP - 3,881,129 votes, 1 seat
Libs - 2,415,888 votes, 8 seats
SNP - 1,454,436 votes, 56 seats
Greens - 1,157,613 votes, 1 seat

The problem we'd have is that it's hard to imagine how we'd get a government formed if we had PR unless you cut down on the number of parties that can stand. But that's not exactly fair either.

The UK's Unheard Third - the 34% of registered voters who did not vote.

Won't let me copy the graphic, but:

2015:
Non-voters: 34%
Conservative 24%
Labour 20%
UKIP 8.3%
Lib Dem 5.2%
Green 2.5%

Makes the US system look pretty good. Here 24% support = absolute power.

[scooterscot]

What does it tell you? That uncontrolled migration can fundamentally alter the future of a country against the wishes of the people who consider themselves "native"?

I have nothing against the uncontrolled migration of folks from south of the border if that's what you're getting at.

The media does a good job of slinging mud at the SNP time and time again. The BBC in particular. But I'm absolutely certain SNP will be the majority party for years to come. The point is you can say one thing about the statistics of who voted for independence or not but it's clear the popular vote exists and cannot be ignored. To do so is only going to entrench division and we must do something to move away from that. I don't know what 'that' is, however.

[LondonManc]

That's not a problem that's the answer. One party politics no longer work for the country. In fact they do more damage than not. The coalition government we had achieved more for the common man on the street than recent one-party governments.

We need to pull ourselves out of the stone age and move on. The system we have was fine when the population was sparsely distributed taking horse drawn cart from one estate to the other. But this is 2016 now not 1816!! Keeping the system we have now is hop skip and a jump from a dressed up dictatorship. The fact May tried to use royal privilege to push through acts that would affect everyone just shows how dangerous our unelected leaders are.

In the UK, it's commonly accepted that you're voting for a person in council elections and a party at general elections. Very naïve to think otherwise. May is therefore not an unelected leader because she's the leader of the party that won the general election. The Tories won the game; you simply don't like the rules but don't live here anyway.

The UK's Unheard Third - the 34% of registered voters who did not vote.

Won't let me copy the graphic, but:

2015:
Non-voters: 34%
Conservative 24%
Labour 20%
UKIP 8.3%
Lib Dem 5.2%
Green 2.5%

Makes the US system look pretty good. Here 24% support = absolute power.

Their own fault if they don't vote, no? Surely they can't moan if they didn't tick a box? Not sure what your point is.

[LondonManc]

Tell that to the Native Americans.

Yet people support the Muzzers getting rid of Israel, who were there long before Mohammed was even thought of. Funny old world.