A mathematical question for you

[DannyF1966]

Something very mathematical which went completely over my head

Part of me thinks I'm an eejit for not following all that.

But another part of me thinks "who cares, it's pay day tomorrow and I'm invoicing for the 65th week at my current gig"

[NotAllThere]

230769230769230770

x 4 = 923076923076923080

So no.

[ctdctd]

Now PM that number to Brillo as a target for the Counting thread - that should keep him going for a while.

230769230769230770

x 4 = 923076923076923080

So no.

Woooooosh

You need to read my post for the context - we may have gone a bit off topic!

[malvolio]

Is it worth remembering that the 11+ was about IQ and reasoning ability, not arithmetic skills (and certainly not maths...). Stuff you can't actually teach.

And just to go off topic a little, did you read that a teacher has been blamed for none of their pupil getting higher than D in a technology GCSE because she taught the wrong syllabus. Is that a condemnation of the teacher for being utterly inept or a syllabus that is so narrow you can't answer questions you haven't been drilled in?

[pr1]

Is it worth remembering that the 11+ was about IQ and reasoning ability, not arithmetic skills (and certainly not maths...). Stuff you can't actually teach.

And just to go off topic a little, did you read that a teacher has been blamed for none of their pupil getting higher than D in a technology GCSE because she taught the wrong syllabus. Is that a condemnation of the teacher for being utterly inept or a syllabus that is so narrow you can't answer questions you haven't been drilled in?

"the 11+" and "grammar school entry exam" aren't necessarily the same thing - some schools require you to pass both

[WTFH]

The original question was used by King Edward's School, Birmingham, in their 2011 admission exam, except they have also saved the file as "11+ Maths.pdf"

[pr1]

The original question was used by King Edward's School, Birmingham, in their 2011 admission exam, except they have also saved the file as "11+ Maths.pdf"

Aha, googled it - so this is the last question on a paper appears to get slightly harder with every question (with calculators not allowed)

Presumably they didn't expect (m)any people to solve it but they want to see what sort of "attempt" you have at it so they can try to see how you think (oxbridge interview style)

[NigelJK]

If it was true to the original 11+ there would have been no preparation. I would guess these days it's possible to pay a tutor to prep your 10 YO on past papers.

[GJABS]

Woooooosh

You need to read my post for the context - we may have gone a bit off topic!

I'm sorry - I was just engaging in a little petty thread sabotage

[Old Greg]

If it was true to the original 11+ there would have been no preparation. I would guess these days it's possible to pay a tutor to prep your 10 YO on past papers.

My step-niece had a huge amount of coaching from a coach who basically sucks up most of the (very few) available places in the county. This is one of the difficulties of a one-off test of ability. Teaching separately to ability is good, but it needs the flexibility to move between "streams" and also to recognise different abilities in different subjects.