[Merged]Brexit stuff

[LondonManc]

Cutting through the assumptions, waffle, ad hominemism.

1. The economic failures I listed are entirely home grown and not due to the EU, since many EU members have avoided one or all of them completely. The myths of blaming exterior factors and nativist national renewal are potent ones that have occurred with other ex-empires and historically always come naught since the underlying problems are NOT caused by external factors. The same will happen here.

2. The failure of imagination is entirely from the Leavers. my imagination encompassed leading the EU which our favourable demographics suggested was a possibility within a generation, given that we engaged with it.

3. In the current context the democracy argument is a farce. We have an unelected Leader, a party which has removed a central plank of its manifesto without going to the country (fiscal prudence) and is about to implement a policy that many know will be disastrous on the basis of a non binding referendum. If you believe in parliamentary democracy let parliament vote with every MP voting on the basis of their belief. Would you agree with the result?

Absolute fantasy. Germany will remain the EU powerhouse and would have done even with a Remain vote.

[shaunbhoy]

Wow so on your plane of reality 52% constitutes a significant majority??

Significant enough to win in a Referendum of this nature, yes. That is kind of how it works.

[shaunbhoy]

err, your understanding is flawed.
17+ million was not the "significant majority". The majority was about 1.27 million.

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Oh dear, you really are glacially slow on the uptake. I'll explain for you as you seem particularly hard of thinking!! Of all of those entitled to vote, somewhere north of 33 million chose to actually vote. Of that 33+ million, a MAJORITY chose to Leave. A smaller MINORITY chose to Remain.
The 1.27 million you refer to was simply the margin by which the MAJORITY of voters WON the day.
Has the penny dropped fully yet or is it still slowly descending into the depths of that dormant organ of a brain of yours?

[shaunbhoy]

Absolute fantasy. Germany will remain the EU powerhouse and would have done even with a Remain vote.

I wouldn't go setting too much store by the workings of sasguru's "imagination". It is a fairly limited entity. Much like his intellect.
They'll be making him a Mod at this rate.

[WTFH]

Oh dear, you really are glacially slow on the uptake. I'll explain for you as you seem particularly hard of thinking!! Of all of those entitled to vote, somewhere north of 33 million chose to actually vote. Of that 33+ million, a MAJORITY chose to Leave. A smaller MINORITY chose to Remain.
The 1.27 million you refer to was simply the margin by which the MAJORITY of voters WON the day.
Has the penny dropped fully yet or is it still slowly descending into the depths of that dormant organ of a brain of yours?

Ah, so if you ignore certain words, you can twist your meaning to fit what you want.
: : : eyes:
Etc.

BTW, intelligent adults tend to argue by using facts, not by name calling. Grow up.

[CretinWatcher]

SB, you remind me of a terrier jumping around, yapping, at the heels of your intellectual betters, seeking attention.
There, there, have a pat. Bless.

[DimPrawn]

BTW, intelligent adults tend to argue by using facts, not by name calling. Grow up.

Intelligent adults don't spend their time arguing facts on an Internet forum. FACT!

[shaunbhoy]

Ah, so if you ignore certain words, you can twist your meaning to fit what you want.
: : : eyes:
Etc.

Good God, even the plainest of explanations is still passing over your head. You sure you are cut out for this?

BTW, intelligent adults tend to argue by using facts, not by name calling. Grow up.

The facts are that the majority of voters opted for a Leave result. Intelligent adults understand what a democratic majority is. As both of these FACTS seem to have escaped you, perhaps you should just stick to posting about matters which you understand. If there are any.

[shaunbhoy]

Some irrelevant nonsense deleted

There you go with that "imagination" of yours again. Like an imbecile that has just discovered sparklers!!

[Old Greg]

The facts are that the majority of voters opted for a Leave result. Intelligent adults understand what a democratic majority is. As both of these FACTS seem to have escaped you, perhaps you should just stick to posting about matters which you understand. If there are any.

So you've moved from significant majority to majority, now.