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Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post.....and do you think she has a majority in parliament for that ?
Senior Tories demand Theresa May ends Brexit uncertainty over single market | The Independent
It's easy for the opposition to combine with rebel Tory MPs and force a vote. It's very difficult to force a vote that means anything. The next vote of substance will be choosing between a particular deal and no deal (WTO), not between one deal and a credible alternative. Other member states have indicated that they're unwilling to budge on free movement. Even a transitional arrangement looks doubtful. Parliament is surprisingly impotent once A50 is triggered and, absent parliament, there's only events, dear boy (which is why you're hoping for a financial calamity).Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostHoly crap! Is somebody not paying full attention to your words of wisdom?
Still, if you guys want to regurgitate your usual schoolboy economics then no one will stop you.Comment
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Originally posted by sirja View PostSeems about right. In any event when a nation with the a current account deficit like ours, experiences a sudden sharp currency devaluation, high persistent inflation (of whatever kind) is sure to follow.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostSo why are they blaming it on currency then? Because the CEO was pro remain?
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostA majority for what? First, there's certainly a majority for a deal that ends free movement in a way that can credibly reduce net migration, as several tens of Labour MPs have already indicated. Anything less would see them unseated. This is a multidimensional battle. Second, you're misunderstanding parliamentary process. The prerogative power (and hence the court case that begins today) is largely irrelevant, even in the most extreme scenario where the HoL delays. Ultimately, there's no pathway to stopping A50. What do you propose happens next in preventing a particular outcome? Even if May outlines her negotiating vision in some detail (and she won't), achieving a particular outcome is beyond her control.
It's easy for the opposition to combine with rebel Tory MPs and force a vote. It's very difficult to force a vote that means anything. The next vote of substance will be choosing between a particular deal and no deal (WTO), not between one deal and a credible alternative. Other member states have indicated that they're unwilling to budge on free movement. Even a transitional arrangement looks doubtful. Parliament is surprisingly impotent once A50 is triggered and, absent parliament, there's only events, dear boy (which is why you're hoping for a financial calamity).
If the Remain MPs truly respected the vote as they claim then they would support A50 and then want involvement in the negotiations. Of course they don't.Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostIt'll take some time but I'm sure you'll figure it out in the end.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
It's easy for the opposition to combine with rebel Tory MPs and force a vote. It's very difficult to force a vote that means anything.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostHe's hoping they get a backdoor vote that stops A50. Aka the Farron position I. E. We vote on the deal before A50 and if we vote against the deal then we stay in the EU.
If the Remain MPs truly respected the vote as they claim then they would support A50 and then want involvement in the negotiations. Of course they don't.Comment
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Just hypothetically ('cos I don't think it would happen), but if enough rebel Tories colluded with the opposition to force a General Election, before Article 50 was invoked, wouldn't that delay it's invocation somewhat? And if in that G.E. the winning party had lobbied on the basis of staying in the EU and ignoring the referendum... well, that would be interesting times indeed.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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