[Merged]Brexit stuff

[Old Greg]

I can cope with British made products. I made two batches of bramble jelly last month, should be enough to last Mrs Admin and the scrotes through until Spring. But that isn't Marmite. I could try and nab a few of the livestock from the fields out the back and render them down in a bathtub in the garden but wouldn't be hopeful of a good result. My pickled shallots were a winner this year too. Going to grow twice as many next year just in case there is short supply due to Brexit...

The Ministry of Food is doubling the sugar ration so we can take full advantage of the bumper blackberry crop. If we can just plough up the Royal Parks, we can dig our way to victory.

Anyway I'm back in the UK before Christmas so if any of you are missing imported little luxuries, PM me. Only hard currency accepted.

[BlasterBates]

The exact opposite of that. I'm sensing a pattern

Constructive ambiguity has been largely absent from HMG's position on net migration, in contrast to budget contributions, for example. May has been remarkably forthright, both on the order of priorities (net migration first, trade second) and on the degree of control that will be necessary (complete control, not fettered free movement). She didn't need to be that forthright, and she's now created a very difficult situation if she wants to reverse. By difficult, I mean insurmountable without a GE, which could happen, of course. However, I think it's telling that, other than her role at the BoE, she's well known for having few opinions on economic policy. She's a classic home secretary. The same is true of her two advisers, Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill. Mark my words, she'll be putting immigration first (esp. after the coalition gov't), because that's what she knows and understands.

.....and do you think she has a majority in parliament for that ?

Senior Tories demand Theresa May ends Brexit uncertainty over single market | The Independent

[mickey]

#brexit: what's in it for you?

What's wrong with foreigners being in the country? How are these foreigners different from those with British passports and a thick foreign accent? Don't other countries welcome both?

Restoring the former glory? How does that translate into a well-being of a particular individual?

Holidays abroad? How come these don't matter?

Sterling down, inflation up. The job of BoE is to fight inflation by raising rates. What is that going to do to monthly mortgage repayments?

[GB9]

Actually it seems that is precisely why you didn't vote to leave, everything points to immigration...

I can see us ending up paying to stay in the market but can't see freedom of movement as it is. Or being under the control of the ecj. They really wound up May.

Marmitegate shows the weakness of the EU though. The assumption amongst remainers was that we would just suck up higher prices and pay the price. Clearly not.

EU goods are becoming uncompetitive. And when tariffs are added then EU goods will really struggle. Goodbye Porsche (unfortunately).

[Chuck]

I don't get this brand loyalty thing. With apparently British brands being made offshore, ie HP Sauce, why not chose a locally made alternative? The small scale, localised, food industry in this country is fantastic right now. If people just stopped moaning for once, and had a look around them, they'd see there is a world of choice, usually involving fewer food miles, better products, and money spent in the local economy.

[_V_]

I don't get this brand loyalty thing. With apparently British brands being made offshore, ie HP Sauce, why not chose a locally made alternative? The small scale, localised, food industry in this country is fantastic right now. If people just stopped moaning for once, and had a look around them, they'd see there is a world of choice, usually involving fewer food miles, better products, and money spent in the local economy.

Exactly this. Or go the other way and order 500KG of it from China.

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[Chuck]

Marmitegate shows the weakness of the EU though.

I think the current Tesco-Unilever situation should be taken with a pinch of salt. Tesco are well known for stuffing their suppliers, and this suits them right now as they can claim to be championing the consumer, while actually protecting their bottom line.

That's not to say there isn't an issue, clearly there is. Just remember to look at the previous form of all those involved before coming up with a judgement.

[stek]

I can see us ending up paying to stay in the market but can't see freedom of movement as it is. Or being under the control of the ecj. They really wound up May.

Marmitegate shows the weakness of the EU though. The assumption amongst remainers was that we would just suck up higher prices and pay the price. Clearly not.

EU goods are becoming uncompetitive. And when tariffs are added then EU goods will really struggle. Goodbye Porsche (unfortunately).

EHCJ is nothing to do with the EU.

[GB9]

EHCJ is nothing to do with the EU.

I didn't say it did.

ECJ - European Court of Justice. Highest court in matters of EU law.

[GB9]

I think the current Tesco-Unilever situation should be taken with a pinch of salt. Tesco are well known for stuffing their suppliers, and this suits them right now as they can claim to be championing the consumer, while actually protecting their bottom line.

That's not to say there isn't an issue, clearly there is. Just remember to look at the previous form of all those involved before coming up with a judgement.

I agree re the supermarkets and treatment of suppliers. Some of it has been grossly unfair.

However, this is a supplier that has become uncompetitive due to currency fluctuations. The simple assumption that the supermarket and then the consumer would bear the brunt is incorrect.

And it's not just Tesco btw.