[Merged]Brexit stuff

[vetran]

Nice even handed moderation here then?

Don't worry GB9 he is like a kid with a new toy with the merge function.

[NotAllThere]

Nice even handed moderation here then?

What? When did that happen?

[Old Greg]

That's what all trolls says. Of course, if you're innocent, then you've nothing to fear.

That's what all Mods say.

[Old Greg]

I would hope you are right, but unfortunately I feel the genie is out of the bottle. Unless immigration is dealt with then UKIP will have a field day come the next election mainly at labours expense.

UKIP will never be satisfied. Consider where the centre ground is in a 52-48 vote. It isn't the Brexit Ultra Brigade.

[Gibbon]

UKIP will never be satisfied. Consider where the centre ground is in a 52-48 vote. It isn't the Brexit Ultra Brigade.

No, but the main motivation for the out vote was immigration. Consider that a lot of the out voters were 'new' voters with no deep party allegiance. Consider the reason we are in this mess is because politicians took the public for granted. Consider that ~35% of the vote can get you elected as government.

[sirja]

I expect we will hear politicians say lots of strong words about the will of the people and then come to a shoddy compromise with a fig leaf they can wave like a victory banner. And that will probably be near enough the centre of public opinion on the matter.

That has been my position as well. We have 2 massive forces, on the one hand a clear majority have voted to leave the EU and that must be seen to be respected and on the other hand we have almost 50 years of legal, financial and business integration with the EU and single market. Only a messy compromise 'In the national interest' can square all this.

[sasguru]

I have more intelligence than you muppets put together.

Nope, you're thick as mince but don't know it. Yet.

[Old Greg]

No, but the main motivation for the out vote was immigration.

Are you sure of that?

[NotAllThere]

...on the one hand a clear majority have voted to leave the EU...

I think "narrow" would be more accurate. Clear implies that the majority was really much larger than the minority.

Nope, you're thick as mince but don't know it. Yet.

Point of order. Your "yet" is superfluous. He'll never know it.

[vetran]

I think "narrow" would be more accurate. Clear implies that the majority was really much larger than the minority.

No it doesn't it implies that there were enough votes in the winning camp to make intentions clear. In the house it means the Government has enough seats to outvote all other parties if they decide to oppose them.

Not sure that translates to a referendum of two options in any way.