[Merged]Brexit stuff

[Paddy]

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rbon-footprint

Our car industry is strong on assembly and weak on parts. So while some 2m cars will be produced here by 2017, the wider supply chain that makes components is small compared to 40 years ago. Just 40% of components (by value) of British-made cars are UK-sourced, whereas 60% of components in German and French cars are homemade. Fourteen of the world’s largest 15 auto-parts firms are in Germany, Japan, the US and France.

[GB9]

I really don't think big Jap car manufactures, Pharmaceuticals or financial institutions are located here, because of subsides.

Do you seriously think these companies would not at the very least consider their options, if the UK was no longer a member of the single market? As I previously stated there are multiple reasons why an international firm could choose to locate in the UK, single market access being one of them. Only a person living in complete denial would think that loss of tariff free trade with the worlds largest single market, would not at the very least prompt an assessment of options. That is not sabre rattling, it's just sensible management.

These companies regularly consider their options and regularly threaten to move. The UK provides billions in subsidies every year to keep them here. How you define subsidies etc depends on your political perspective.

If a company gets a better offer elsewhere then they can go for it. But they have to balance that with loss of contracts and sales in the UK too.

[sasguru]

The UK provides billions in subsidies every year to keep them here. How you define subsidies etc depends on your political perspective.

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Can you provide some evidence for that statement or does it rank with the gross lie you keep repeating that the ONS says we pay 375 million a week to the EU?
I'm just trying to work if you're a congenital liar or just thick as mince.

[DodgyAgent]

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[WTFH]

Paddy, the 14 out of 15 figure is out of date. Based on 2015, it's 17/20, the other three manufacturers being two in Canada and one in Korea.

[Paddy]

These companies regularly consider their options and regularly threaten to move. The UK provides billions in subsidies every year to keep them here. How you define subsidies etc depends on your political perspective.

If a company gets a better offer elsewhere then they can go for it. But they have to balance that with loss of contracts and sales in the UK too.

The only “subsidies” to the automotive industry comes from the EU Regional Development fund. If you know different , then post a link.

[AtW]

They will intro new NHS tax to save NHS - that's how they get 100 mln per week

[sal]

3) Not be a part of a club where we put more in than we take out and to use the money we save to help our NHS and other services.

That's is the mistake most people do, they only see ££ signs and can't put a value in further reaching consequences of how EU contributions are spent. The poorer EU countries are net receivers of EU funds, but they are used to strengthen their economies / create jobs / improve living standards etc. Which deters people from migrating to the developed EU countries, who are generally net contributors to the EU budget. Arguably the vast bureaucracy and corruption involved in the process wastes a lot of that EU budget, but it's not different to how UK budget is wasted the same way.

Speaking about the NHS - this is probably the single most reliant on imported permanent labour organisation in the UK. Try and implement a point based system that will disqualify half of the nurses and doctors based on age or education or what-not and see how it goes...

[sasguru]

Here is the full text of the Japanese letter.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/files/000185466.pdf

It's already too late for one of their issues:

"To maintain the current location of the European Medicines Agency "

That ship has sailed, and so will the Jap pharma companies.

[AtW]

So if it's not points based system, then what?

Pretty amazing to hear that from May who was Home Office minister for such a long time and whose "purview" included points based "Australian like" system.