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Trump - Ban all Muslims

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    #61
    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    Agreed. That's the real shame of welfare and restrictions on freedom of association.
    If the US can go back to it's principles it could be the greatest country on earth again.
    Welfare, aspects of socialism & anti-discrimination laws will only lead to further entrenched xenophobia and things that look like xenophobia.
    And of course their utterly dishonest, deceptive MSM.

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      #62
      He is repeating the history again with the same mistakes.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Bee View Post
        He is repeating the history again with the same mistakes.
        However he's too thick to realise what he's doing....
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #64
          Don't worry, he is ok witht his muslim -



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            #65
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            Don't worry, he is ok witht his muslim -



            This one is rich doesn't count

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              #66
              If America did stop muslim immigration, would the amount of terrorism in America in the future would be less than it would otherwise be? I would imagine yes. For an average american who does not have muslim friends or relatives, is there a downside to this policy?

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                #67
                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                Welfare gives you the state pension e.g. a minimum income to survive on when you are unable to work due to age.
                What does that have to do with the point being made? Xenophibia & things that look like xenophobia?

                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                If it wasn't for "aspects of socialism" as you call it you would have state eduction, a police service, an army or an NHS.
                Not true on any count (from what I gather you to mean by 'aspects of socialism').
                Although I'm not sure that socialism means what you think it means.

                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                Anti-discrimination laws are to remind public bodies and businesses of their obligations to treat people as fairly as possible.
                That only makes any sense if you assume some unearned a priori obligations.
                That aside what does it have to do with the point being made (xenophobia & things that look like xenophobia) ?

                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                Hate speech laws are to used to stop inciting other people do violent things to minorities in society whether they have a disability or follow a different religion.
                Are you wrapping hate speech up into discrimination? I have no problem with hate speech anyway (so far as law is concerned) - I value freedom of speech. But that wasn't really what I meant by discrimination.

                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                All societies need rules to govern them as without it you would get anarchy. Though some people think anarchy is a good thing....
                What's that got to do with anything I said?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by GJABS View Post
                  If America did stop muslim immigration, would the amount of terrorism in America in the future would be less than it would otherwise be? I would imagine yes. For an average american who does not have muslim friends or relatives, is there a downside to this policy?
                  Nope because there are Muslim converts in the US who don't like the political establishment. One of the groups has been around since the 1930's. If you start a war on Muslims then you are going to stir some weirdo in one of those groups to take action.
                  "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                    #69
                    Verbal Sharting....
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bee View Post
                      This one is rich doesn't count
                      Yes and also not in the US.

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