Official Labour leadership thread

[PurpleGorilla]

What folk are failing to grasp is:

1. The 1% are getting richer, quicker

2. The 0.1% are obscenely wealthy.

3. Plenty of businesses make hundreds of millions in profit and pay NO corporation tax (eg Anglican Water)

So yes, rich businesses and individuals can contribute more, because they have been getting more wealthy during austerity and financial crisis.

[centurian]

So we (the British tax payer) are expected to pay £100BN to Lockheed Martin soon to renew trident...

What a racket...

Pay your taxes you morally indefensible contractors - you can't possibly expect big business and super rich individuals to foot this bill can you?!

Only a fraction of the 100Bn (which is the green party high-end figure, not the official figure) actually goes on purchasing and servicing the missiles.

The biggest cost, by a huge margin, is running the submarines themselves over 25-40 years, sailors salaries, fitters, maintenance workers, infrastructure investment into the base in scotland etc.

If you didn't have Trident, but "invested" in a defence force instead - guess what - that would cost a shed load over 40 years as well.

[BlasterBates]

In the old communist countries everyone had the same amount of money but there was nothing to spend it on. So effectively if you were a privileged functionary in the party you would have a fancy house and a fancy car even though you weren't any more wealthy because your application to get a car or house would be accepted.

Just a different way of being rich really.

[DodgyAgent]

What folk are failing to grasp is:

1. The 1% are getting richer, quicker

2. The 0.1% are obscenely wealthy.

3. Plenty of businesses make hundreds of millions in profit and pay NO corporation tax (eg Anglican Water)

So yes, rich businesses and individuals can contribute more, because they have been getting more wealthy during austerity and financial crisis.

As an IT contractor you are one of them.

[Jog On]

He is anti war by supporting enemies of Britain whether they be Russia, IRA, Hezbollah, Hamas. If you think for a minute that pacifism is the answer to everything then maybe you should argue what Britain should have done in the face odf Hitler. His way of "de escalating" war is to submit to the demands of the terrorists and oppressors
here you go. His associations hardly a representation of balanced debate Why is no one asking about Jeremy Corbyn
I cannot see for the life of me where he has ever challenged the behaviour, policies and actions of any of the dodgy terrorist groups he has engaged with.

So many people are trying so desperately to make him out to be some terrorist sympathiser with some nefarious ulterior motive to sell us out to our enemies - didn't we do this one a few pages back?

It's very simple - he is against war and wants to de-escalate any conflicts we are involved in. In order to do that you need dialogue with all parties involved.

Here's what he actually said about our armed forces:

A measurement of a society's happiness and prosperity and success is not war, not weapons, not prison, not unemployment.

The measurement is education, health, inspiration, high levels of employment and not going to war around the world to steal the natural resources of others to enrich the already wealthy western society.

Our message today is in memory of those that were so tragically and brutally and horribly killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki - and all those that suffered the health defects and disfigurement of nuclear testing over the past 60 years.

No more nuclear weapons. No more nuclear wars. No more wars. A world of peace.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if every politician around the world instead of taking pride in the size of their Armed Forces did what Costa Rica have done and abolished their Army, and took pride in the fact they don't have an Army.

And that their country is near the top of the global peace index. Surely that is the way we should be going forward.

Here's what Jeremy Corbyn REALLY said about getting rid of the Army - Mirror Online

He's completely against the grain of the current establishment and what some would call a conspiracy theorist when it comes to the military industrial complex, perpetual war, NATO making up conflicts to keep it's existence (and making it';s members pay 2% GDP to aforementioned military industrial complex).

FWIW I don't agree with all his ideas but the anti-war and de-escalation of conflict stance is why I voted for him and it outweighs any tax increase I may have to endure if we get a more peaceful and happier world.

Call me what you want but I don't like war, I don't like terrorism, I don't like all the human tragedy that's unfolding and just being escalated by those in charge. I'm very glad that finally there is someone in a position of power who intends to actually do something about it.

[AtW]

In the old communist countries everyone had the same amount of money but there was nothing to spend it on. So effectively if you were a privileged functionary in the party you would have a fancy house and a fancy car even though you weren't any more wealthy because your application to get a car or house would be accepted.

Just a different way of being rich really.

On the other hand it was far more likely to be purged - the higher the rank was in the Communist Party the higher %-tage were found out to be Japanese spies...

[PurpleGorilla]

[PurpleGorilla]

As an IT contractor you are one of them.

Not quite the 1%, maybe in the top 5%.

[AtW]

Not quite the 1%, maybe in the top 5%.

Yes but 0.1% are in that Top 5%!!!



Feeling better already? Open another bottle of Crystal if not

[PurpleGorilla]

Yes but 0.1% are in that Top 5%!!!



Feeling better already? Open another bottle of Crystal if not

Lol - I didn't realise I was rich!

Not sure what my wealth equates to factoring in house prices.