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    #21
    Originally posted by zemoxyl View Post
    Again I'll go with Cameron taking a minority government for maybe 6 months before a leadership campaign takes him out. He's more or less softened the path to that himself.
    Changing leader 6 months in would virtually gift a term to Labour. Having a well-known, articulate and reasonably charismatic leader is the Tories' main strength. A new leader needs time to get well known leading the opposition IMO.
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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      #22
      Originally posted by malvolio View Post
      Hadn't noticed any substantial shift in their demands for independence but hey... I accept I'm not that interested in the lower level stuff

      As for the rest, to put it simply, I and 90% of the UK don't want Mr Potato Heid anywhere near the levers of power.

      Incidentally, your isolationist paranoia is showing: there are a large number of IPSE members in Scotland, around 10% of the membership.
      Better get used to him at the levers of power then if the GE result turns out like the polls.

      I'm not isolationist and I'm not paranoid. Just like your Unionist 'separatist' crap, they are just words which try to indicate division. I would continue to work all over the UK as I have done in the past if Scotland was independent. My base would be in Scotland though so my taxes would be going into a Scottish exchequer to be used in a fairer way than they do in Westminster.

      You don't want Scottish influence at Westminster yet you have a representative 10% of members in IPSE. I take it you don't want them having influence either?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Batcher View Post


        Funny that. We have 1 Tory MP representing no more than 5% than the Scottish population yet get ruled by a Tory government. That is not any kind of democracy I would recognise. How does it feel to be ruled by a foreign power
        Scottish MPs can vote on anything that impacts their constituents but can also vote on matters that have no impact on Scotland so I suspect we come off worse. Now if you walked away from such a dichotomy and did the decent thing i.e. not vote on non scottish matters......

        Amuses me that they are willing to support a Party that opposed a referendum during their 13 years in power but disable one that provided the means to have one.

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          #24
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          Changing leader 6 months in would virtually gift a term to Labour. Having a well-known, articulate and reasonably charismatic leader is the Tories' main strength. A new leader needs time to get well known leading the opposition IMO.
          Cameron leading a minority government won't happen unless Labour supports him at the Queen's speech in a vote of confidence. If Labour do that they will lose all their support in the UK.

          If the polls are correct at the GE, Labour and SNP will have enough to block Cameron getting into no. 10. The new 5 year fixed term that the Tories brought in and FPTP will actually work against the duopoly. I can see them changing the rules to have PR in future elections to try and stop smaller parties having influence. The snouts don't like their place at the trough being threatened.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Batcher View Post
            Better get used to him at the levers of power then if the GE result turns out like the polls.

            I'm not isolationist and I'm not paranoid. Just like your Unionist 'separatist' crap, they are just words which try to indicate division. I would continue to work all over the UK as I have done in the past if Scotland was independent. My base would be in Scotland though so my taxes would be going into a Scottish exchequer to be used in a fairer way than they do in Westminster.

            You don't want Scottish influence at Westminster yet you have a representative 10% of members in IPSE. I take it you don't want them having influence either?
            Oh grow up. For example, have you considered you won't be allowed to work in the UK if Scotland gets its way; you will need a visa to do so since you will be outside the EU for some years.

            I have no problem with Scottish influence over Scottish affairs. I do have a problem with Scottish influence over UK affairs. And being Welsh, I have a fairly clear idea of suppressed nationality, no fiscal authority and government by remote control.
            Blog? What blog...?

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              #26
              Originally posted by malvolio View Post
              Oh grow up. For example, have you considered you won't be allowed to work in the UK if Scotland gets its way; you will need a visa to do so since you will be outside the EU for some years.

              I have no problem with Scottish influence over Scottish affairs. I do have a problem with Scottish influence over UK affairs. And being Welsh, I have a fairly clear idea of suppressed nationality, no fiscal authority and government by remote control.
              Nonsense. Don't tell me you believe all that rubbish about border guards and visas? And the way things are going, after a referendum on the EU possibly next year, we'll all be dragged out of the EU anyway.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                Nonsense. Don't tell me you believe all that rubbish about border guards and visas? And the way things are going, after a referendum on the EU possibly next year, we'll all be dragged out of the EU anyway.
                Not the point at all, but no use arguing.
                Blog? What blog...?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                  Better get used to him at the levers of power then if the GE result turns out like the polls.
                  I would continue to work all over the UK as I have done in the past if Scotland was independent. My base would be in Scotland though so my taxes would be going into a Scottish exchequer to be used in a fairer way than they do in Westminster.
                  If you work in rUK you pay tax there, so if your plan is to live in Scotland, work in England and pay taxes in Scotland, it won't wash I'm afraid.

                  You'll pay tax in England and Scotland may demand a top up.

                  When you work cross border life becomes complicated, you'll have to deal with both the Scottish and English tax authorities.

                  I doubt very much whether it will come to that though
                  I'm alright Jack

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                    Oh grow up. For example, have you considered you won't be allowed to work in the UK if Scotland gets its way; you will need a visa to do so since you will be outside the EU for some years.

                    I have no problem with Scottish influence over Scottish affairs. I do have a problem with Scottish influence over UK affairs. And being Welsh, I have a fairly clear idea of suppressed nationality, no fiscal authority and government by remote control.
                    You joined the EDL now Mal?? True colours starting to show
                    When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                      If you work in rUK you pay tax there, so if your plan is to live in Scotland, work in England and pay taxes in Scotland, it won't wash I'm afraid.

                      You'll pay tax in England and Scotland may demand a top up.

                      When you work cross border life becomes complicated, you'll have to deal with both the Scottish and English tax authorities.

                      I doubt very much whether it will come to that though
                      Yes, lets ask Suity about his constant tax difficulties that he's faced working in Germany......
                      When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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