A long walk to the Bar

[malvolio]

You joined the EDL now Mal?? True colours starting to show

Why in God's name would a Welshman join the EDL?

OK, I'm being deliberately extreme to make the point that the SNP position is fundamentally untenable but they're so wrapped up in their own propaganda they can't - or won't - see it.

[BlasterBates]

Yes, lets ask Suity about his constant tax difficulties that he's faced working in Germany......

What you should do is spend an hour ot two at a German police station, where you have a high chance of meeting someone who f**ed up on cross border taxation issues.

...and expect at some point to receive a letter explaining your whereabouts on all weekends you weren't "allegedly" in the country, and why the centre of your life is actually in X but not in Y, with 50 grand riding on the right answer.

I will never ever work cross border again, never .....

never ever

...but good luck with your Scotland/England border issues and the complex question on whether your company is Scottish or English and whether they really are business trips, and enquiries from HMRC and Scottish HMRC doing their routine enquires, and you look forward to long winded discussions with your English and Scottish tax advisors and their non-comittal "might" and "possibly"'s....yes good luck.

One thing I can say is you would never see me in Scotland other than to "march through the heather" and drink drambuie..

[TestMangler]

Why in God's name would a Welshman join the EDL?

OK, I'm being deliberately extreme to make the point that the SNP position is fundamentally untenable but they're so wrapped up in their own propaganda they can't - or won't - see it.

So, the SNP are being extreme, but you're advocating banning Scots from crossing the border into England. That makes perfect sense.

I really don't get your argument here. Your Westminster government, coalition partners and opposition campaigned loudly (using your money to fund their campaign) to keep Scotland in the UK. If Scotland subsequently decides to return circa 50 SNP MP's to Westminster, then that is their democratic right and the right of the SNP to pursue their own policies, as voted for by the population of Scotland.

The fact that you lot all seem to be reading the Daily Mail and getting all hot under the collar about Scotland having some say in the shape of the next Westminster government doesn't make it undemocratic. This only comes about because you lot can't actually elect a clear government, because you're all too busy flitting from being Conservative to Labour and back again. Grow some ******* backbone and elect a government clearly and the issue won't arise.

[TestMangler]

What you should do is spend an hour ot two at a German police station, where you have a high chance of meeting someone who f**ed up on cross border taxation issues.

...and expect at some point to receive a letter explaining your whereabouts on all weekends you weren't "allegedly" in the country, and why the centre of your life is actually in X but not in Y, with 50 grand riding on the right answer.

I will never ever work cross border again, never .....

never ever

...but good luck with your Scotland/England border issues and the complex question on whether your company is Scottish or English and whether they really are business trips, and enquiries from HMRC and Scottish HMRC doing their routine enquires.

My company is Scottish. It was registered in Scotland in 1995. There is no issue here.

Why don't you put up a poll to see how many people have faced your mythical issues as outlined above ? Don't remember seeing any of these things happening on the numerous "I've been offered a contract in France/Germany/spain/Italy" threads. Even Suity didn't end up in a German jail and if it's goint to happen, it's going to happen to him.

Unless of course you're just being racist and saying "I won't allow smelly jocks into my country if they try to have a say in my government"

[Batcher]

What you should do is spend an hour ot two at a German police station, where you have a high chance of meeting someone who f**ed up on cross border taxation issues.

...and expect at some point to receive a letter explaining your whereabouts on all weekends you weren't "allegedly" in the country, and why the centre of your life is actually in X but not in Y, with 50 grand riding on the right answer.

I will never ever work cross border again, never .....

never ever

...but good luck with your Scotland/England border issues and the complex question on whether your company is Scottish or English and whether they really are business trips, and enquiries from HMRC and Scottish HMRC doing their routine enquires, and you look forward to long winded discussions with your English and Scottish tax advisors and their non-comittal "might" and "possibly"'s....yes good luck.

One thing I can say is you would never see me in Scotland other than to "march through the heather" and drink drambuie..

My Ltd is registered in Scotland, I've worked in Europe and haven't had any problems so far. I worked in Dublin and people travelled down from NI to work there too and no-one had any issues paying tax in their base country. No-one ever mentioned the tax authorities in Dublin giving them grief.

I'm sure there would be a cross border agreement with each other's tax collection agencies in the case of Scottish independence.

[TestMangler]

My Ltd is registered in Scotland, I've worked in Europe and haven't had any problems so far. I worked in Dublin and people travelled down from NI to work there too and no-one had any issues paying tax in their base country. No-one ever mentioned the tax authorities in Dublin giving them grief.

I'm sure there would be a cross border agreement with each other's tax collection agencies in the case of Scottish independence.

Stop using common sense approaches (that work all over the EU) as arguments against the little Englanders. They're having a little hissy fit and no amount of reality is going to stop them banging their little feet in a pointless manner

[Batcher]

Why in God's name would a Welshman join the EDL?

OK, I'm being deliberately extreme to make the point that the SNP position is fundamentally untenable but they're so wrapped up in their own propaganda they can't - or won't - see it.

I think you'll find it's not our propaganda. It's project fear version II but this time being pushed out to rUK to get the Daily Mail readers all hot & bothered.

Wings Over Scotland | A fundamental misunderstanding

Scotland is still part of the UK. Both Cameron and Miliband fervently wished it to be so, and fought hard and dirtily to make sure it stayed that way. Neither of them has any place bleating about the impact of Scottish votes on UK democracy, because they’re responsible for the UK still including Scotland.

[Batcher]

Stop using common sense approaches (that work all over the EU) as arguments against the little Englanders. They're having a little hissy fit and no amount of reality is going to stop them banging their little feet in a pointless manner

[BlasterBates]

My company is Scottish. It was registered in Scotland in 1995. There is no issue here.

Why don't you put up a poll to see how many people have faced your mythical issues as outlined above ? Don't remember seeing any of these things happening on the numerous "I've been offered a contract in France/Germany/spain/Italy" threads. Even Suity didn't end up in a German jail and if it's goint to happen, it's going to happen to him.

Unless of course you're just being racist and saying "I won't allow smelly jocks into my country if they try to have a say in my government"

Not at all....

But you can't simply use a Scottish company to contract in other countries. Well you can but you need to set up a foreign branch and pay tax there.

Quite simple, there are exceptions but if you do it for any length of time you'll be up for tax evasion.

Just pointing out that what you're suggesting is illegal. If you do it for a few weeks they won't chase it up because there isn't enough tax, and some countries are lassaiz faire, but you never know. IN Luxembourg they used to be lassaiz faire and then stopped being lassez faire all of a sudden.

It's a mine field.

Trouble is it can be several years before they catch up with you and when you get caught it's a massive bill for a couple of hundred grand.

I worked alongside a contractor who received a 200 grand bill two years after leaving Germany.

But when Scotland leaves the UK you're perfectly welcome to work in England just watch out for the taxman.

[TestMangler]

Not at all....

But you can't simply use a Scottish company to contract in other countries. Well you can but you need to set up a foreign branch and pay tax there.

Quite simple, there are exceptions but if you do it for any length of time you'll be up for tax evasion.

Just pointing out that what you're suggesting is illegal.

Working outside your own country is illegal ? Really ? Is that how you're justifying your argument ?

Or are you suggesting that Scottish people don't follow the rules when it comes to working abroad or will we unilaterally be disallowed from doing so ?

I don't understand your contention here, other than that you've made something up to justify your dislike for democracy.